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Howard Riefs

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"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 06:05:37 PM »
I spent quite a few days at Camp Meriwether, which is located south of Cape Lookout. Aerial views show forests and dunes, and one of the new buildings. Pretty sure they can build a course and still provide a buffer around the scout camp to preserve its privacy.

Emile Bonfiglio

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015, 06:57:53 PM »
Pete, I've spent many night with my sons here camping. The off-road vehicle noise might be the only downside of this site. I really hope this happens, I'd be there every chance I can.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 09:00:46 PM »
Time for a new Merit Badge.


"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Terry Lavin

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 09:28:44 PM »
Time for a new Merit Badge.




That's a very inspired thought, my good man.
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Daryl David

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015, 09:36:54 PM »

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2015, 09:55:09 PM »
Daryl,
Saw that badge before I posted, what I didn't see was any mention of caddying in the requirements.

Golf merit badge requirements


Discuss safety on the golf course. Show that you know first aid for injuries or illnesses that could occur while golfing, including heat reactions, dehydration, blisters, sprains, and strains.
Study the USGA Rules of Golf now in use.
a. Tell about the three categories of golf etiquette.
b. Show that you know about the definitions of golf terms.
c. Show that you understand the "Rules of Amateur Status."
Tell about your understanding of the USGA system of handicapping.
Do the following:
a. Tell about the early history of golf.
b. Describe its early years in the United States.
c. Tell about the accomplishments of a top golfer of your choice.
Discuss with your counselor vocational opportunities related to golf.
Do the following:
a. Tell how golf can contribute to a healthy lifestyle, mentally and physically.
b. Tell how a golf exercise plan can help you play better. Show two exercises that would improve your game.
Show the following:
a. The proper grip, stance, posture, and key fundamentals of a good swing.
b. The full wood shot, played from a tee.
c. The fairway wood shot.
d. The long iron shot.
e. The short iron shot.
f. The approach, chip-and-run, and pitch shots.
g. The sand iron shot, bunker, or heavy rough recovery shots.
h. A sound putting stroke
Play a minimum of two nine-hole rounds or one 18-hole round of golf with another golfer about your age and with your counselor, or an adult approved by your counselor. Do the following:
a. Follow the "Rules of Golf".
b. Practice good golf etiquette.
c. Show respect to fellow golfers, committee, sponsor, and gallery.
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Connor Dougherty

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 10:09:47 AM »
I actually figured out about this project not from this site, but from a friend who shared a petition to not build the golf course on coastal forest land on Facebook. Does anyone know the ecological details of the project? I can't imagine that Keiser would have gone for a second project which would be tougher to get off the ground than his last endeavor for Bandon Links.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2015, 11:32:15 AM »
I actually figured out about this project not from this site, but from a friend who shared a petition to not build the golf course on coastal forest land on Facebook. Does anyone know the ecological details of the project? I can't imagine that Keiser would have gone for a second project which would be tougher to get off the ground than his last endeavor for Bandon Links.


Connor:


By "ecological" don't you mean "political" ?  Ecology really didn't have much to do with the Bandon Links controversy, unless you are counting the local populace as part of the ecology.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2015, 12:25:11 PM »
Looks like an interesting project....
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 12:27:26 PM by Kalen Braley »

Matt Frey, PGA

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Gary Sato

Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2015, 01:32:10 PM »
Opposition acknowledge that a solution must be found to the scouts financial problems but "not another golf course". They cite the number of courses in Oregon and of course water and use of chemicals.

I'm surprised Keiser didn't buy Sandpines and the accompanying real estate since that development has never taken off. He could then bulldoze that Rees Jones fiasco for a win win.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2015, 02:23:37 PM »
The Golf merit badge already exists: http://www.scouting.org/Home/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/MeritBadges/mb-GOLF.aspx





See reply #6
Think caddie, not player.  ;)

It seems like such a natural pairing - the ethos of Scouting meshes neatly with golf, plus, these kids aren't afraid of being outdoors and actually doing something.   

If bringing caddies back to golf on a larger scale is a good idea, and if you also want to see caddies on a mid priced golf course, well, it's not going to happen with adults carrying bags at hefty fees.

Why not create a caddie program in the BSA and give it its own badge? There are 2.4 million potential caddies in the BSA (2.3 million in the GSA), and they're already organized.


 

No brainer.  ;) 
« Last Edit: December 08, 2015, 02:27:25 PM by Jim_Kennedy »
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2015, 03:29:09 PM »
Jim,

Not trying to be contradictory....

But if you look at the mission statement of this particular camp, its all about the boys having a wilderness like experience and "getting away from it all".  If I spent a pretty penny to send my kid off to a week long camp at this location, the last thing I'd be wanting them to do is spend the better part of a day caddying at the golf course.  That can be done in just about any town in America.

I'd be wanting them to completely disconnect and decompress and enjoy a week outdoors in a rustic like setting.

Just my two cents.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2015, 03:53:09 PM »
Kalen,

The idea is transportable.
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Kalen Braley

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Re: Keiser & Boy Scouts to partner on new Oregon course
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2015, 04:19:06 PM »
Kalen,

The idea is transportable.

Fair enough, I was thinking in specific terms of this location.

In general, I completely agree, I think it'd be a terrific merit badge in scouting...

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