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Tommy Williamsen

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difficult courses you could play everyday
« on: July 07, 2020, 07:58:00 PM »
There are some difficult courses that I need to see only once in a while. I couldn't play Carnoustie everyday. I am not that much of a masochist. I'm not sure I could play Pine Valley everyday either. I belong(ed) to two difficult courses that I could play everyday: Musgrove Mill nd Ballyhack. Both are difficult but both are fun and allow all kinds of shots. They also elevate your game, except last week when I was dreadful.
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David Ober

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2020, 08:16:37 PM »
Quote from: Tommy Williamsen on July 07, 2020, 07:58:00 PM
There are some difficult courses that I need to see only once in a while. I couldn't play Carnoustie everyday. I am not that much of a masochist. I'm not sure I could play Pine Valley everyday either. I belong(ed) to two difficult courses that I could play everyday: Musgrove Mill nd Ballyhack. Both are difficult but both are fun and allow all kinds of shots. They also elevate your game, except last week when I was dreadful.


I love difficult tracks because they allow my shortgame to shine since I have to use it so much!


That said, tough courses, for me, are only fun if I get to play them in excellent condition. If they are in excellent condition, then It's all on you if you make double or worse. There's just nothing worse than playing a super tough track in crappy greenside conditions. Miss a green, settle in a bare hole, zero chance to get it close. Double-bogey. No fun.
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David Ober

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2020, 08:20:58 PM »
I could play Spyglass every day, for sure.


I could play La Purisima every day, if it was in really good shape -- especially the surrounds, which never are anymore.

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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2020, 08:24:08 PM »
Quote from: David Ober on July 07, 2020, 08:20:58 PM
I could play Spyglass every day, for sure.


I could play La Purisima every day, if it was in really good shape -- especially the surrounds, which never are anymore.


Interesting. I played La Purisima about four years ago and thought it was excellent. The condition was ok. Not sure I could play Spyglass everyday though. it's too long.
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jeffwarne

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2020, 08:49:48 PM »
It would depend upon whose definition of "difficult" and Well "conditioned"
When perfect conditioning becomes a condition of playing a "difficult" course, I guess I'm just going to opt for something else... that's neither well "conditioned or "difficult"


I realize that's vague, but as long as the ball rolls reasonably true on the greens at almost any speed (5-14), I'm in, and I tire of egotistical, boring, one dimensional difficult golf courses where looking for a ball becomes common.Low score wins, I don't care how "challenging" a course is in a match-we're both playing the smae hole.
Today my opponent's partner flew the first green by 20 yards, and they suggested we play winter rules, because of "fliers"
I said no, we're playing golf.
On the second hole the same opponent flew the green by 20 yards, off a tee.....

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David_Madison

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2020, 09:30:53 PM »
Pinehurst #2
Old Town
Oakmont
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Greg Gilson

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2020, 10:14:32 PM »

Pine Valley


Oakmont


...I wish
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Brent Carlson

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2020, 12:28:23 AM »
Oakland Hills South...easily.  Especially after Hanse and team do their magic.  It's going to be good.
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Sean_A

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2020, 02:21:48 AM »
Quote from: Brent Carlson on July 08, 2020, 12:28:23 AM
Oakland Hills South...easily.  Especially after Hanse and team do their magic.  It's going to be good.

When will the work be done? Oaklands Hills renovated is a tough course I would love to see. A course with such great greens deserves some TLC.

Ciao
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Thomas Dai

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2020, 02:59:30 AM »
Carnoustie every time! :)
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Tim Leahy

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2020, 03:46:47 AM »
Olympic Lake only one fairway trap to worry about, LOL.
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Mark Pearce

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2020, 04:26:36 AM »
Muirfield
Ganton
Carnoustie


I'd be quite happy to play every day at any of those.
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JMEvensky

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2020, 04:28:47 AM »
Royal County Down


Winged Foot--West


Southern Hills
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Ben Stephens

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2020, 07:01:45 AM »
Quote from: Thomas Dai on July 08, 2020, 02:59:30 AM
Carnoustie every time! :)
atb


Ditto - the more you play it - it will be easier!
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Ben Stephens

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2020, 07:03:05 AM »
Quote from: Mark Pearce on July 08, 2020, 04:26:36 AM
Muirfield
Ganton
Carnoustie


I'd be quite happy to play every day at any of those.


I have not played Muirfield however I have played the other two multiple times.


Isn't it a coincidence that these three are probably the best bunkered courses in the UK??
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archie_struthers

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2020, 07:19:09 AM »
 8)


Certainly Pine Valley as its a great walk and the more you play it the easier to accept the inevitable double bogey or chip out and make a good bogey. It's wide and if you can putt there is a great chance to shine relative to your playing partners. The greens are so pure that birdies are definitely out there.


Of course it's not easy to join as a member.



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Ira Fishman

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2020, 08:06:42 AM »
PH2


Ballybunion Old


I might add River Course at Koehler, but I think it would be too difficult for me now.


Ira
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Carl Rogers

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2020, 11:37:18 AM »
Royal New Kent ..... and we all can play it every day.
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Mark Chaplin

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2020, 11:47:18 AM »
Archie less than ten new members were admitted this year.


Par at PV after a wayward shot usually involves a miracle. The first time I played 15 I pulled my tee shot left into the trees and had to chip out sideways, a wood left me around 170yds from where I hit a 5 iron to within a foot for a get out of jail par.
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Brent Carlson

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2020, 12:16:12 PM »
Quote from: Sean_A on July 08, 2020, 02:21:48 AM
Quote from: Brent Carlson on July 08, 2020, 12:28:23 AM
Oakland Hills South...easily.  Especially after Hanse and team do their magic.  It's going to be good.

When will the work be done? Oaklands Hills renovated is a tough course I would love to see. A course with such great greens deserves some TLC.

Ciao
Sean,
OH-S is closed until spring of next year.  The plans look really great.  I haven't seen much on social media regarding progress.
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MCirba

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2020, 01:31:41 PM »
Oakmont.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2020, 01:41:22 PM »
Assuming its "difficult" because its oft used for the US Open.... Pebble Beach.
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Mark Pearce

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2020, 01:59:06 PM »
Quote from: Ben Stephens on July 08, 2020, 07:03:05 AM
Quote from: Mark Pearce on July 08, 2020, 04:26:36 AM
Muirfield
Ganton
Carnoustie


I'd be quite happy to play every day at any of those.


I have not played Muirfield however I have played the other two multiple times.


Isn't it a coincidence that these three are probably the best bunkered courses in the UK??
No.  No coincidence at all.  And Muirfield may be is the best bunkered of the  three.
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Ben Stephens

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2020, 02:07:16 PM »
Quote from: Mark Pearce on July 08, 2020, 01:59:06 PM
Quote from: Ben Stephens on July 08, 2020, 07:03:05 AM
Quote from: Mark Pearce on July 08, 2020, 04:26:36 AM
Muirfield
Ganton
Carnoustie


I'd be quite happy to play every day at any of those.


I have not played Muirfield however I have played the other two multiple times.


Isn't it a coincidence that these three are probably the best bunkered courses in the UK??
No.  No coincidence at all.  And Muirfield may be is the best bunkered of the  three.


I have been to Muirfield for the Open the last time the club hosted it and yes I need to play it to find out myself.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: difficult courses you could play everyday
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2020, 05:46:15 PM »
I am surprised that so many would pick Carnoustie. A regular diet of Carnoustie would either make you a good player or a former player.
When I go to Ireland I play The European Club every day for a week.
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