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Garland Bayley

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2020, 11:16:42 AM »
Niall-You are a wizard. ...

I beg to differ. ;D

Niall said Covesea, Jeff said Covesea.

I said not Covesea.

FBD said Cullen. FBD is the wizard!

"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Garland Bayley

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2020, 11:21:32 AM »
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I don't think of Pennard as quirky. It's a very cool property for a course.

Ciao

I thought about listing Pennard, but didn't as I agree with Sean. Would you call Royal Portrush Dunluce quirky? Or, just a very cool property for a course.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Troy Miller

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2020, 11:27:07 AM »
Cruit Island was the first thing that came to mind for me - from start to finish including the journey to get there.  Like an old man stuck is his ways, I think there's some examples of older courses that have grown into their quirkiness, and some that only show it under stress, (also like an old man) and extreme conditions. 

Dean DiBerardino

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2020, 02:05:47 PM »
Mayfield CC in South Euclid, OH.....
  • Multiple blind & semi-blind shots.
  • Back to back par threes at 12 & 13.
  • The course plays down, up, over, through and around some most wonderful natural terrain in the Euclid Creek valley just outside of Cleveland.
It would be great if they could restore some width to the fairways and bring the creek more in to play on holes 14 & 18.

Greg Hohman

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2020, 06:51:44 PM »
Chris, the quirky name got me to visit Switzerland of Ohio’s website. The pics give some idea. The aerial video jerks away before one can savor anything in detail. I am compiling a list for a x-c road trip. Your take on the place would be appreciated.
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Chris_Blakely

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2020, 09:24:21 PM »
Chris, the quirky name got me to visit Switzerland of Ohio’s website. The pics give some idea. The aerial video jerks away before one can savor anything in detail. I am compiling a list for a x-c road trip. Your take on the place would be appreciated.


Greg,
Unfortunately, the hard drive I took my pictures of the course crashed several years ago.  I lost only about 20 courses or so.  That being said, the course has very good elevation changes.  Uphill holes downhill holes  and greens that look like they were built in the 20s.


I played the course on way back from Pittsburgh, I definitely recommend if in the area.


Chris

Greg Hohman

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2020, 02:44:41 PM »
Chris, the return leg to CA will run thru Pittsburgh, my hometown, so it's on my list now, for next year (the pandemic caused cancellation of this year's trip). Thank you!
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2020, 04:08:22 PM »
Niall-You are a wizard. ...

I beg to differ. ;D

Niall said Covesea, Jeff said Covesea.

I said not Covesea.

FBD said Cullen. FBD is the wizard!


Thank you, Garland.
I, of course, am far too modest - to have drawn everyone’s attention to that!
 ;D
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jeffwarne

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2020, 09:46:54 PM »


I don't think of Pennard as quirky. It's a very cool property for a course.

Ciao


Others would beg to differ when they can't keep a ball on 16 green, 17 fairway on second shot(after utilizing the tiers to stay in play on tee shot), or 18 fairway-to say nothing of #4, or even #10
Pennard is one of my favorite courses in the world, and the property is indeed cool, but it is quirky
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2020, 12:26:13 AM »


I don't think of Pennard as quirky. It's a very cool property for a course.

Ciao


Others would beg to differ when they can't keep a ball on 16 green, 17 fairway on second shot(after utilizing the tiers to stay in play on tee shot), or 18 fairway-to say nothing of #5, or even #10
Pennard is one of my favorite courses in the world, and the property is indeed cool, but it is quirky

Having a course be demanding is not necessarily the same a quirky. Is Sawgrass quirky because I cannot keep my ball out of the water?
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Sean_A

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2020, 02:03:09 AM »

I don't think of Pennard as quirky. It's a very cool property for a course.

Ciao

Others would beg to differ when they can't keep a ball on 16 green, 17 fairway on second shot(after utilizing the tiers to stay in play on tee shot), or 18 fairway-to say nothing of #5, or even #10
Pennard is one of my favorite courses in the world, and the property is indeed cool, but it is quirky

Others may beg to differ, but begging won't help 😏.

If one approaches 16 from the left its not hard to keep the ball on the green. Although, the green has been softened, I believe.

5?

10 is unusual with the land bridge, but there are plenty of banked fairways in golf.

18 is just a tilted fairway that isn't wide enough. Why quirky?

I'll give you 17, probably the worst hole on the course, but people love it.

I think of Pennard as links extreme when it's dried out. Pennard is a better course when it's running half speed 😎.  I long thought that a place like Pennard would be cool if it could have a winter course which would be normal layout from the daily tees and a shortened summer card. Kind of the reverse of what we normally see.

Ciao
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jeffwarne

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2020, 06:54:29 AM »

I don't think of Pennard as quirky. It's a very cool property for a course.

Ciao

Others would beg to differ when they can't keep a ball on 16 green, 17 fairway on second shot(after utilizing the tiers to stay in play on tee shot), or 18 fairway-to say nothing of #5, or even #10
Pennard is one of my favorite courses in the world, and the property is indeed cool, but it is quirky

Others may beg to differ, but begging won't help 😏.

If one approaches 16 from the left its not hard to keep the ball on the green. Although, the green has been softened, I believe.

5?

10 is unusual with the land bridge, but there are plenty of banked fairways in golf.

18 is just a tilted fairway that isn't wide enough. Why quirky?

I'll give you 17, probably the worst hole on the course, but people love it.

I think of Pennard as links extreme when it's dried out. Pennard is a better course when it's running half speed 😎.  I long thought that a place like Pennard would be cool if it could have a winter course which would be normal layout from the daily tees and a shortened summer card. Kind of the reverse of what we normally see.

Ciao


Yes interesting comment about a course that's more interesting when not so fiery-I agree, but it's fun at all times!
I loved 16-don't think it was altered last time I played it? 2014?
Thrilled to get a "gift"-I like 17 too
I meant 4, not 5-an odd par 5 even after multiple plays.
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"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

mike_malone

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2020, 11:27:00 AM »
Quirky is like pornography. You know it when you see it. It probably depends on the amount of conventional courses you see which determines your shock tolerance level.
Pennard is quirky.
AKA Mayday

Tim Martin

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2020, 12:24:08 PM »
18 - Yale
9 -   Marion Golf Club aka “Little Marion”

Cob Carlson

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2020, 01:35:51 PM »
Highland Links...9 holer in Truro on Cape Cod.


Crazy elevation changes, 3 challenging par threes, blind shots, drivable par 4 opening hole, spectacular high cliff Atlantic Ocean views from 6th tee...just a ton of fun...

Sean_A

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Re: Favorite quirky courses
« Reply #65 on: June 29, 2020, 03:02:29 AM »

I don't think of Pennard as quirky. It's a very cool property for a course.

Ciao

Others would beg to differ when they can't keep a ball on 16 green, 17 fairway on second shot(after utilizing the tiers to stay in play on tee shot), or 18 fairway-to say nothing of #5, or even #10
Pennard is one of my favorite courses in the world, and the property is indeed cool, but it is quirky

Others may beg to differ, but begging won't help .

If one approaches 16 from the left its not hard to keep the ball on the green. Although, the green has been softened, I believe.

5?

10 is unusual with the land bridge, but there are plenty of banked fairways in golf.

18 is just a tilted fairway that isn't wide enough. Why quirky?

I'll give you 17, probably the worst hole on the course, but people love it.

I think of Pennard as links extreme when it's dried out. Pennard is a better course when it's running half speed .  I long thought that a place like Pennard would be cool if it could have a winter course which would be normal layout from the daily tees and a shortened summer card. Kind of the reverse of what we normally see.

Ciao

Yes interesting comment about a course that's more interesting when not so fiery-I agree, but it's fun at all times!
I loved 16-don't think it was altered last time I played it? 2014?
Thrilled to get a "gift"-I like 17 too
I meant 4, not 5-an odd par 5 even after multiple plays.

I thought I heard several years ago the 16th green was going to be softened. Maybe it never happened.

Like a huge number of courses in GB&I, Pennard is a lay of the land course. It probably makes more sense with older equipment, but there are no oddball crossing holes, double greens, plunging or towering fairways. Pennard strikes me as a sensible design with a few flaws that modern machinery could sort out in a flash. Other than 17, I think the 8th is a bit funky. Unlike 17, I think its funky in a good way.

Maybe it's a matter of degree. When I compare Pennard and Painswick, the same description of quirky can't describe both places 😎.

Ciao
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