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Carl Rogers

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2020, 10:34:16 PM »
Liquid Metal .... Played by Azinger for a while.
I decline to accept the end of man. ... William Faulkner

David_Tepper

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2020, 10:36:32 PM »
Pat B. -

I think Bernhard Langer won at least one of his Masters with a Wood Bros. "Texas Golf" driver in his bag.


I had (and still have) a set of Wood Bros. "Kool-Cat" cavity-backed forged irons. Like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Right-Handed-Wood-Bros-Kool-Cat-5-Iron-w-Graphite-R-Flex-Shaft/114127762850?hash=item1a928b75a2:g:mOcAAOSw4qNeUujv

DT

John Crowley

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2020, 11:11:45 PM »
Orlimar - After their success with fairway woods they marketed a full line. There is an article about Orlimar in one of the recent golf mags. According to Google, they were played by Johnny Miller, Seve Ballesteros, Tom Weiskopf and Hale Irwin,
I am still playing with Orlimar HipTi drivers. Love ‘em. Have five with different lofts and shafts and alternate for various conditions.
Monday will switch to one of my four Cleveland Launchers for comparison.

Pat Burke

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2020, 11:42:23 PM »
Pat B. -

I think Bernhard Langer won at least one of his Masters with a Wood Bros. "Texas Golf" driver in his bag.


I had (and still have) a set of Wood Bros. "Kool-Cat" cavity-backed forged irons. Like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Right-Handed-Wood-Bros-Kool-Cat-5-Iron-w-Graphite-R-Flex-Shaft/114127762850?hash=item1a928b75a2:g:mOcAAOSw4qNeUujv

DT




The Kool Kat drivers were very hot back in the day!!


Langer was a well known Wood Bro’s guy so it would make sense he was using one then! 


Their irons were unseated in my opinion!!




I’ll through in Founders Club and Langert Metal woods too!!

Ben Stephens

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2020, 02:23:41 AM »
Joe Powell disappeared in the 2010's


I have a Joe Powell persimmon driver (8 to 9 degrees) with a dent at the back (an accident with another club doing a practice swing) need to get it repaired guys if you know someone the UK that can do it I would appreciate it


Also have a full set of Joe Powell irons.


Both still in my garage alongside with a number of Orlimar fairway woods and the odd Adams one.




Cheers
Ben

Jeff Schley

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2020, 05:56:58 AM »

I’ll through in Founders Club and Langert Metal woods too!!
No more Founders Club?
I remember going to my first (and only) 2 day golf school in Palm Springs with John Jacobs back in 2000 and they were pushing people to buy "custom fitted" clubs.  Turns out they were Founders Club.
"To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice your gifts."
- Steve Prefontaine

Thomas Dai

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2020, 06:22:30 AM »
Are the brand names Northwestern, Gradidge and Petron (ie Pete and Ron!) still in use?
atb



Eric Smith

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2020, 06:43:09 AM »
Langert Golf, makers of the once famous, Langert Lizard. 

Ira Fishman

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2020, 08:18:56 AM »
George Low Putters


And all of those plugs by Lee Trevino for Faultless golf balls.


Ira

Mike Hendren

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2020, 10:39:03 AM »
Haig Ultra irons - made by Wilson, were beautiful. My first full set - with aluminum shafts.


Dad’s first set were Internationals. I used the putter at the KP retro round at Pajaro.


Anyone buy Podo balls at the pharmacy?
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

rjsimper

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2020, 01:35:51 PM »
I think the Snake Eyes brand still exists via Golfsmith or some other component supplier, but the actual Snake Eyes wedges in the 90s were awesome.


I remember selling tons of Cleveland 588 wedges at 69.99 a pop, then the RTG versions came out and those were probably 79 or 89.


Then one day Snake Eyes shows up at $189.99. That and Scotty Cameron were the only two ultra-premium lines in the US Market. People would tell me how much Honma went for in Japan and I could not believe them.


Great wedges, those Snake Eyes.

David_Tepper

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2020, 02:00:16 PM »
Haig Ultra irons - made by Wilson, were beautiful.

Michael H. -

Yes, those Haig Ultra irons were a really good looking blade. I am pretty sure someone tried to revive that brand 10-15 years ago, but never got it off the ground.

DT 
 

Dave Doxey

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2020, 04:32:46 PM »
Kroydon clubs.  My first set.  Still have them.

Jim Sherma

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2020, 10:46:11 PM »
Isn’t Walter Hagen a house brand for Dick’s now? Not sure about clubs but at least for some soft goods.


I have a set of George Sayers blades and woods. They were made by Ben Sayers in Scotland and sold through George’s shop which I believe was at Merion. My understanding was they were stamped as George Sayers if sold in the states and Ben Sayers otherwise. My dad and his better ball partner, Roy High who ended up writing the golf column in the Myrtle Beach paper for many years, went to get fitted in 1952. I used Roy’s set, 1-SW, through high school and college in the 80’s. My dad’s set is a shankless set of irons and he has the driver, 3-1/2 wood and 5 wood. Beautiful hand made equipment.

David_Tepper

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2020, 10:53:20 PM »
Isn’t Walter Hagen a house brand for Dick’s now? Not sure about clubs but at least for some soft goods.

Jim S. -

Some of these old school brand names (Hogan, Hagen, Tommy Armour, etc.) have probably been sold and re-sold over the years. They show up on "house brand" clubs and clothes at various big-box retailers around the world. I think Tommy Armour was owned by Sports Authority for a while and then sold to Dick's when Sports Authority closed down. I think the Hogan brand may have been bought by the company that owns Tommy Hilfiger. I have seen Hogan brand clothes in the ASDA stores in Scotland!

DT 



Michael Whitaker

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2020, 11:29:02 PM »
RAM (Tom Watson)


First Flight (Arnold Palmer)
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

Michael Whitaker

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2020, 11:32:51 PM »
RAM (Tom Watson)


First Flight (Arnold Palmer)
Oops! I see you had already named these two. I had a set of First Flight Palmer irons back in the day.


What about Yonex. Played by Mickelson and Montgomery. They had gold colored boron shafts. Forged cavity backs. I had a set of those, too.
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

Ben Stephens

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2020, 03:57:54 AM »
RAM (Tom Watson)


First Flight (Arnold Palmer)
Oops! I see you had already named these two. I had a set of First Flight Palmer irons back in the day.


What about Yonex. Played by Mickelson and Montgomery. They had gold colored boron shafts. Forged cavity backs. I had a set of those, too.


A late golfing mate of mine played with those Yonex irons that you mention. They were light and had a good feel.


Others that I can mention that are not NLE but not used on the tour or in golf shops are:


Ben Hogan - their new Icon irons look rather sweet!
Lynx - the Parallax Irons used but Freddie in his 1992 Masters win and Ernie's US Open in 1994 they were great clubs
Ram - I had the wedges which were the best at the time in early to mid 90s
Maxfli - those tour balatas  ;D ;D  however cut too often and their Australian Blades  8)


Has anyone mentioned Nike? didn't they stopped making clubs?

Matthew Rose

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2020, 04:14:02 AM »
McHenry Metals!

I was working in the muni pro shop when those came out and our pro hawked a bunch of those. I don't remember anyone actually buying one.

Also remember Founders Club which may have been around the same time.

Does Daiwa still make clubs? IIRC they were some of the first clubs to have graphite.

Does Acushnet still make Bullseye putters? That was my childhood weapon. My current avatar in The Golf Club uses one :)

American-Australian. Trackman Course Guy. Fatalistic sports fan. Drummer. Bass player. Father. Cat lover.

Brian_Ewen

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2020, 02:48:16 AM »
https://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/18515427.obituary-hope-letters-master-maker-golf-clubs-used-champions-celebrities/



Obituary: Hope Letters, master maker of golf clubs used by champions and celebrities


Born: March 19, 1925;


Died: May 15, 2020.


MANY high-profile golfers have, over the decades, won key tournaments using clubs made by the renowned Glasgow company of John Letters.


Fred Daly, playing John Letters clubs, was the first Irishman to win the Open, in 1947. Two years later, eight of the ten-man British Ryder Cup team opted for Letters clubs.


Film stars such as Frank Sinatra, Sir Sean Connery and Danny Kaye all used and admired the clubs that Letters has been making since 1918; and golfers such as Lee Trevino, Bernard Gallacher and Sam Torrance have all won championships with them.


Hope Letters, who has died peacefully at the age of 95, after suffering a stroke at his home in North Berwick, was a natural at golf-club design and was heavily involved in the success of the iconic Golden Goose and Silver Swan putters, and Master Model irons, amongst others. He also designed the clubs used by four other Open Champions: Peter Thomson, Bob Charles, Arnold Palmer and Gary Player.


Hope Letters was born in Glasgow in March 1925, the last surviving child of his parents John and Hanah’s eight children. He was evacuated to Newton Stewart at the outbreak of war in 1939 but after only three months he decided that children should be with their parents.


He returned to Glasgow and started work at his father’s company of golf club manufacturers. The factory had been re-tasked to make essential wartime equipment, mainly black-out blinds. This work was not for Hope and he left to work as a supervisor loading and unloading ships in a Glasgow dockyard.


Despite being in a reserved occupation, Hope got permission to volunteer to the army in November 1942, he was only 17. He was called up to the Gordon Highlanders and trained in Aberdeen for six weeks. During this time he survived a Luftwaffe attack on his barracks, in which more than 30 soldiers were killed. As he later remarked: “Luckily, Aberdeen is made of granite. It could have been worse”.


He was then posted around Britain with the London Scottish regiment. In late 1943, the army asked for volunteers to join the Second Front which was then raging in Europe, and Hope stepped forward.


He was deployed for action in Italy, and on his arrival in Naples in March 1944, was reassigned to the 4th Indian Division, which comprised the Cameron Highlanders, along with Sikh and Gurkha regiments. He went into the line on his 19th birthday, and over the next eight months progressed with his Division on foot from Naples to Monte Cassino, and northward from there.


On one occasion, he rescued a young boy from an atrocity committed by the Nazis. In 2009, the German officer responsible for the atrocity was finally brought to justice in a Munich courtroom, in one of Germany's last Nazi war crime trials. The young boy Hope had saved, now Gino Massetti, now 81, testified as a witness. The trial generated worldwide publicity, and in 2010 Hope travelled to Italy with his family, where he and Massetti were re-united in Falzano di Cortona.


Hope fought with distinction, and his Division was the first Allied troop unit into Florence, San Marino, Montepulciano and other neighbouring towns. After the German surrender he was posted to Yugoslavia and Greece.


Hope rejoined his father’s company in 1947, beginning a lifelong passion for golf. Working together with his father and four brothers he saw the company became a highly respected name in the golf world.


It was while on a trip ‘Doon the watter’ that he met May McNiven, who would be the love of his life. T hey married in September 1954 and went on to have three sons, John, Peter and Cameron.


In 1968 Hope moved his young family to North Berwick where he was Works Director at Ben Sayers until 1980. He developed carbon fibre technology for golf club shafts, which fitted well with his Big Ben Design for the world’s first oversized wooden driver.


He also introduced parallel tip shafts into the manufacturing process, thereby cutting global shaft inventories by 80 per cent. It was a huge saving for all golf club companies.


As a golfer he was good enough to play in the Scottish Amateur championship. He introduced his wife and sons to the game and to his other passion, fishing. He was never happier than when standing waist-deep in a fastflowing salmon river or casting a fly on Coldingham Loch. Indeed, inspiration for carbon fibre golf shafts came when he came across fishing rods of that material.


He was captain of Haggs Castle golf club in 1963 and served on committee at North Berwick and Gullane. At one time he possessed one of the world’s largest collections of antique golf clubs and balls, and he was the club historian at North Berwick, the 13 oldest club in the world.


Hope visited many countries on business or holidaying with May and visiting their boys in far-flung parts of the world. In later years he discovered a talent for landscape painting. His specialist subject was, of course, golf courses.


He was a loving father, a devoted husband, and a loyal and caring friend to many. His outlook on life was summed up in his own words: “Every day is a beautiful day”.


Jeff Schley

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2020, 06:36:45 AM »
Brian,
Thanks for that. It is the selfless, humble heroism of the greatest generation that should continue to inspire us to be a better version of ourselves.
May Mr. Letters RIP.
"To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice your gifts."
- Steve Prefontaine

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2020, 10:44:21 AM »
Yonex is big in tennis but they're still around in golf:


http://www.yonexusa.com/sports/golf
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Brian_Ewen

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2020, 02:37:16 PM »
Brian,
Thanks for that. It is the selfless, humble heroism of the greatest generation that should continue to inspire us to be a better version of ourselves.
May Mr. Letters RIP.


He was probably worth a thread of his own.


When I read that today, I was sure there was already a thread on 'John Letters', but this was the only one I could find.


Steve Sayre

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2020, 04:05:36 PM »
From a 2017 Golf Channel article:


"Frank Thomas is credited with developing the modern graphite shaft. In 1968 he was commissioned by Henry Shakespeare, son of th founder of the Shakespeare Company, to come up with the best composite material golf shaft. The Shakespeare Company was primarily known for its fishing equipment, but it also produced archery equipment, pool cues, radio antennas -- and golf club shafts. Shakespeare had signed Gary Player to an endorsement contract, and in 1965 he won the U.S. Open playing irons with Shakespeare fiberglass shafts. Despite Player's success, Thomas didn't see fiberglass as the future of golf shafts."


It was actually a very heavy shaft and it was made very much like a fishing pole", Thomas recalled. "Very strong, but it really was a terrible shaft".

David_Tepper

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Re: OT - Golf Brands NLE
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2020, 12:15:09 PM »
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