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Matt_Cohn

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Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« on: May 16, 2020, 08:29:35 PM »
I only know of two: Pinehurst #2 and, apparently, Seminole. Rees Jones' article about Seminole on Golf.com includes heat maps of three greens, such as this one:



I was trying to think of anywhere I might have played with similar greens, and just couldn't think of a course with more than about one green like that. Is there anywhere else with a lot of greens like that?
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2020, 08:43:52 PM »
That's mostly from years of topdressing.  In the beginning everything would have drained away from the bunkers in back. But sometimes evolution is for the better!
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David_Tepper

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2020, 08:57:14 PM »
Royal Dornoch! (just ask Niall Carlton ;) )
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2020, 03:56:39 AM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on May 16, 2020, 08:57:14 PM
Royal Dornoch! (just ask Niall Carlton ;) )



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Greg Gilson

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2020, 04:56:01 AM »

Shinnecock Hills


Ocean Course at The National (Australia) RIP
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Ira Fishman

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2020, 08:32:35 AM »
They are not always intriguing or charming. Pinehurst 8 has quite a few, and they are not good. This is not a case of architect bias. My wife does not pay much attention to who designed a course. She really appreciated PH2 greens and found PH8 to be one of her least favorite courses.


Ira
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David_Madison

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2020, 11:08:58 AM »
Mid Pines has a number of them and very similar in severity to #2
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Craig Disher

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2020, 11:11:06 AM »
Chechessee Creek Club.
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Mark Smolens

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2020, 11:48:25 AM »
Some of Langford and Moreau's work like Kankakee Elks or Spring Valley have this featured. . .

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Kyle Harris

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2020, 12:47:38 PM »
My takeaway from #2 was how many of the greens didn't really fall off to the level they had been hyped to fall off.

And one of the best holes on the golf course (#11) doesn't really have any except over the back left.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2020, 01:37:29 AM »
Rustic Canyon, I think you have played there in a King's Putter, no?
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: Courses with lots of crowned/fallaway edge greens
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2020, 02:31:03 AM »
Quote from: Tim Leahy on May 18, 2020, 01:37:29 AM
Rustic Canyon, I think you have played there in a King's Putter, no?


Not for KP, but I've played Rustic. It obviously has lots of short grass around the greens but, if I remember right, not anywhere near as many fall-off edges. There are definitely some, but my memory is that there are a lot more like this—short grass, but not falling away from the edges of the greens.



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