[Brock Lynch]

I just don't see how any public golf facility could operate and cover expenses with these type of restrictions in place,
which "most likely" will be in place for the remainder of this season???


No golf shop
No carts
No outings
No restaurant
Less players allowed on the course

The return of these, in order, will be


Golf Shop
Carts
Restaurant
Outings (it will be quite some time before large gatherings will happen again)

I doubt that any or all of these will return at the same time.

[Ronald Montesano]

while the State owned(the very body that mandated the shutdown) ones are actually open(with modifications), renting carts and serving takeaway.

Our state-owned course, Beaver Island, is closed. How are the other, state-owned courses (Green Lake, Battle Island, James Baird, et al.)? Are they open?

[Ronald Montesano]

JHoulihan...which state are you?

[jeffwarne]

Walking is definitely more prevalent and most courses seem to be actively endorsing it. But I'm not sure it's going to spur a walking golf renaissance among the general public. The most walking-friendly public course routings in town are munis, and they're all closed (unless something changed recently). Meanwhile, I saw a residential course across town encouraging walking on their website a week or so ago. I just measured the distance from their 9th green to the 10th tee at 2200 feet on Google Maps, and that's in a straight line. The actual route is probably closer to half a mile.


It's been interesting to watch round times go down as everyone playing my home course started walking it, but that ain't gonna happen everywhere.

The lack of amenities and forced carrying have weeded out the last few  knuckleheads left who began playing because golf was "cool".

[John Kavanaugh]

The guilt of a family left unprotected has quickened many a trip home.

[archie_struthers]

 


Nothing is open in NJ and don't think our governor is inclined to change anything very soon.  My concern is at the end of the day the uber rich will pick over the bones of the economy don't know if public golf courses will be on the menu.

[John Kavanaugh]

For mega supporters like me it may not be easy to get back up to speed. I had quit two courses even before the virus.

[Thomas Dai]

Michigan [and quite a few other states] have ordered all golf courses closed.
Hard to tell how much of it is for the safety of workers [because it is not ESSENTIAL for golf to exist], and how much is just politics [golf is for rich people = don't let rich people enjoy themselves while others are suffering]. 
I've seen a lot of comments along the latter lines on various internet sites . . . it's sad to see what a bad image golf has among average Americans.  I don't think having a golf-developer-in-chief has helped matters.

Not just a bad golf image in the US I’m afraid, which is why it’s so important to do the right thing during this vile virus period.
Atb

[Pete_Pittock]

Some private clubs will become public. In Oregon Springfield G&CC is renamed Pine Ridge, Pendleton CC is now Quail Creek.

[JHoulihan]

JHoulihan...which state are you?

Ronald,
Phoenix AZ

[Mike_Young]

Here is a FB video of my son explaining to his customers how we will operate during COVID 19 shelter in place operation.  https://www.facebook.com/TheFieldsGolfClub/videos/158428545405944/?__tn__=kCH-R&eid=ARDLeyyBdXTOXC0-BoDjovguFuBe9d4xlGXhedom2UaEIp38qABXFcFGWwPFaFuNilvvDUQwrj58vXub&hc_ref=ARSxzMW4AWernSVJ5jxG0zB9PS-QWfQ2iiqI9E2GSoHEMRPSYDcgU0KsQjpcN10vraM&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARCU_TLZLqiwFmnnkWCVR8J6xc50GcU-ZwcFWkFa7xClW3klePuk_B8TAC7PgiqqG9JxzIiqM818guC1sehbSE4yo36vsKp5_ct0QF-eqNvg8z5hmntuiIGaMU703x3VVUKmuMMyyjUsbVkHF0-M1Ew6j_7vC0onLOIXg-pGBnS9njstOJWD3teUGGgLjcVUjMM707XUiE5U3tiHVKxcbkvVh5ZyQEUqzuLtbACV991sEjZsxuLd_Gfyox7Rpv2_abpEizk4UC9tID5Sr-YRdv-VZJbHDCOziuRzRzxY6CotiCQAzCyXZ4rVhXKCL_fuqzJe0TRR9dPBkFAhlE9ZTqfp-cVn99A. 
There are some who have issues with courses being open...

[Mike Bodo]

Ohio's courses have had the option to remain open throughout the crisis, aside from about a 36 hour period a few weekends ago. And even then, most private clubs that I'm aware of were able to keep their courses open.


Our state's leaders continue to advocate for socially distanced outdoor recreation, and golf has been a good outlet.

Good to know Ohio's public and private golf courses are still open for business. If the governor of Michigan doesn't exempt golf courses from the non-essential business list soon I'll likely be driving to Toledo from my house 40 minutes away in Southeast MI to get my golf fix in. You guys are taking the correct approach to this. No wonder you've been kicking our ass in football the past 15 years. We don't have our shit together. 

[Mike Bodo]

Great article on the financial impact the current non-essential business designation is having on many of Michigan's golf course operators and clubs, whose courses have been closed since late last month due to the COVID-19 outbreak.


https://www.mlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/course-owners-workers-feel-financial-pinch-with-michigans-golf-industry-shut-down.html



How would you like to be the guy who put his house up for collateral to keep the course that he owns afloat under the current constraints? I wouldn't be feeling too good about it right now.


With nearly all courses trying to get by with a bare minimum of maintenance workers while they are closed, it seems the biggest concern with spring arriving is the health and preservation of the greens and making sure their growth doesn't get out of hand at the risk of losing them. Anyone in a similar position here or knows someone who is?

[Buck Wolter]

The Minnesota Governor 'allowed' golf courses to resume maintenance yesterday so at least he's stopped hurting them that way. Fishing season will go ahead because they'd probably storm the capital -- good luck social distancing in your 18' Lund.

[Bob Montle]

My local public course is open and business is up about 40%

No food.  Beer or soda's from rented Coke machines.
One rider per cart.
Credit/debit only for green fees.
No rakes in traps.
Events (Wednesday scramble, Friday skin's game and Weekend leagues) are running as usual, just with more social distancing.

[Bernie Bell]

Michigan [and quite a few other states] have ordered all golf courses closed.


Hard to tell how much of it is for the safety of workers [because it is not ESSENTIAL for golf to exist], and how much is just politics [golf is for rich people = don't let rich people enjoy themselves while others are suffering]. 


I've seen a lot of comments along the latter lines on various internet sites . . . it's sad to see what a bad image golf has among average Americans.  I don't think having a golf-developer-in-chief has helped matters.

Michigan Attorney General says:  “I just can’t hear about one more black heath care worker, police officer or bus driver die while getting a barrage of complaints from white folks outraged because they can’t go golfing.”   Not clear yet where she stands on Asian golfers.

[Ronald Montesano]

As some may have seen, the plug was pulled on NY golf yesterday. The governor had no recourse; asses of jack simply did not follow orders. Guys were getting together in parking lots, like it was a tailgate. People a) don't consider anyone else; and b) don't think they will get caught.


Sometimes, the public-course (my haven) mentality is "this is our club and we are going to do everything to protect it." Other times, it is "hey, fack you, I paid my money, I can do what I want."


On another note, my injured back (15 days ago) is healing, thanks to rest, meds, light stretching and light yoga. Does anyone have a yoga pose/link to a yoga pose, that she/he would mind sharing? Thanks in advance.

[Sean_A]

Many of us live in golf bubble and may fail to realize the horrible rep golf has...and to be fair...to some degree it is well earned.  Let us hope going forward that more people in the golf business understand this fact and try to remedy the situation.  Ya never know, when resources get tight, a better rep just might come in handy.

Ciao

[Erik J. Barzeski]

Many of us live in golf bubble and may fail to realize the horrible rep golf has...and to be fair...to some degree it is well earned.  Let us hope going forward that more people in the golf business understand this fact and try to remedy the situation.  Ya never know, when resources get tight, a better rep just might come in handy.

A good bit of that (not even saying the majority, just a good sized chunk) is due to sheer ignorance, though, and that will never be corrected.

It's a pity that PA's competitive juniors, already at a disadvantage given the length of the season (not year-round), are now losing another chunk of their competitive outdoor season, which may affect scholarships, college choices, etc. in the future.

[John Kavanaugh]

There is nothing ignorant about hating golfers. See OJ.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/golf/o-j-simpson-says-nevadas-golf-course-closures-unfortunate-2002975/

[MCirba]

As I told a friend yesterday, it's impossible to stop the self-entitled idiots who ruin it for everybody else and I've seen exactly what Ron M. Is talking about above.


Then the only alternative for everyone's safety becomes to shut it down.

[John Kavanaugh]

As I told a friend yesterday, it's impossible to stop the self-entitled idiots who ruin it for everybody else and I've seen exactly what Ron M. Is talking about above.


Then the only alternative for everyone's safety becomes to shut it down.

Those of us who have spent anytime around golf knew that from day one and called for closures then. Even the best intentioned golfers can not follow CDC regulations. Golf takes far too long and consists of too many choke points along the way. This was a once in a generation opportunity for the game to improve our reputation and we blew it.

[John Kavanaugh]

I got a call about Streamsong yesterday from a friend in Illinois. He was surprised at my negative take. When I asked him how many NY license plates it would take for him to see in the parking lot to turn around and go back home he said one.


I honestly don't have a problem with people playing with the same people they may see at the grocery. My issue is with the non-residents who travel sometimes across state lines to play. Or worse from an area that doesn't have golf to one that does. That pretty much put the major high cost resorts all in the same boat.

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