[Kalen Braley]

Jeff,

"A bit OT, but your "keep my safety in my own hands" comment reminded me that my mentors would never design parallel holes in the same direction, figuring you had a chance to see a shot coming at you from the front, but not one from behind you."

I've never quite understood this line of thinking.  Its hard enough to see a ball from someone hitting it 250 yards away even if you're watching from the start.  So why would it matter if its coming from behind me or in front of me?  Someone yells fore, i'm only doing one thing..covering my head and getting in a crouch position.

[Sean_A]

Jeff,

"A bit OT, but your "keep my safety in my own hands" comment reminded me that my mentors would never design parallel holes in the same direction, figuring you had a chance to see a shot coming at you from the front, but not one from behind you."

I've never quite understood this line of thinking.  Its hard enough to see a ball from someone hitting it 250 yards away even if you're watching from the start.  So why would it matter if its coming from behind me or in front of me?  Someone yells fore, i'm only doing one thing..covering my head and getting in a crouch position.

I want to see who may potentially yell fore before the shot is taken.  Trees offer a completely false sense of security because we walk around blind to the danger.


Ciao

[Jeff_Brauer]

Someone needs to invent an invisible fence for golf.

Maxwell Smart's "Cone of Silence" might be a good start, just add the force field to repel balls, and now, keep people 6 feet away.....

[Jeff_Brauer]

I've never quite understood this line of thinking.  Its hard enough to see a ball from someone hitting it 250 yards away even if you're watching from the start.  So why would it matter if its coming from behind me or in front of me?  Someone yells fore, i'm only doing one thing..covering my head and getting in a crouch position.

I want to see who may potentially yell fore before the shot is taken.  Trees offer a completely false sense of security because we walk around blind to the danger.


Ciao

It may not matter. As far as I can tell, when someone yells fore, most people look up first to see where the ball is coming from rather than ducking immediately.  Human nature.

[Lou_Duran]

Jeff,
Safety is always paramount!  I am working on one course where they have an Internal "aerial" OB    If you ball crosses into the air space above the OB markers it is deemed OB.  Yes crazy but all done in the name of safety.

Is this "legal" under USGA rules?

[Mark_Fine]

Good question Lou.  Don't know the answer but it is a private club and that is their local rule.  Our Master Plan changes the hole and eliminates the need for internal OB period.

[Sean_A]

I've never quite understood this line of thinking.  Its hard enough to see a ball from someone hitting it 250 yards away even if you're watching from the start.  So why would it matter if its coming from behind me or in front of me?  Someone yells fore, i'm only doing one thing..covering my head and getting in a crouch position.

I want to see who may potentially yell fore before the shot is taken.  Trees offer a completely false sense of security because we walk around blind to the danger.

Ciao

It may not matter. As far as I can tell, when someone yells fore, most people look up first to see where the ball is coming from rather than ducking immediately.  Human nature.

If true, I guess most people aren't terribly bright. Seriously, I think I am probably more mindful of danger than most because of the courses I tend to play. That said, most of the time the danger is exaggerated because its so obvious. I feel more vulnerable on tree lined courses because the danger isn't obvious. That said dos, Painswick is the exception! That course is dangerous to the point where you know people are hitting at you from blind spots, but you just hope for the best. It's a nutjob design.

Ciao

[Pete_Pittock]

      One of my previous home courses had a driveway of 400+ yards leading to clubhouse built in the center (as far as golf is concerned)of the property. The two par fours paralleling the driveway had internal OBs at the driveway edge, plus a par 3 crossed the driveway next to the parking lot. The reason for the internal OBs was the rolling terrain, in that a car could be completely hidden when you looked, but then dead ion the way when you hit.
       A course routed within a compact space for all the holes has a better chance for internal OB isses, rather than one routed between houses, with a lot of water, or a vast amount of space. While architecture may be an issue, that may be caused by the the land the developed offers.

[mike_beene]

Problem from a liability standpoint is taking it out. It is not a factor on 17 at Lakewood but take it out and try defending the case

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