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John Mayhugh

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 One of the best aspects of GCA is the networking opportunities it provides. Each year, discussion group participants organize events like the Dixie Cup, King’s Putter, Buda, and Midwest Mashie. Each offers the chance for people to get together in real life to play courses with architectural merit and forge friendships. These events strengthen the “Freemasonry of Golf” as Bob Huntley called it.
 
While I don’t have a good history on every event, I think that King’s Putter in 2002 and Buda in 2003 were the first two. Of all of the events each year, none is better than Buda.
 
As I understand it, Buda is named for a trophy that Sean Arble picked up in Budapest. It’s a rather loosely structured competition between UK/EU players and the rest of the world. No one was more enthusiastic about this event than Bill McBride, and his urging convinced me to give it a try in 2009.
 
The courses played have all been well worth visiting, but in many (probably most) years not locations that are on a typical visitor’s itinerary. There are generally also additional non-official rounds added. I marvel at the ability of the organizers each year to pull off such a terrific trip, and generally an inexpensive one.
 
Recently, I had the idea to try to put together an eclectic course using holes from official Buda venues, and made it a bit tougher by adhering to the original hole number and using no more than a single hole from any course. Inspiration came from this fine series by Clyde Johnson & Jaeger Kovich.
https://thefriedegg.com/eclectic-18-uk-preamble/
 
 
The Buda courses that I had to choose from were:
 
2003     Royal Dornoch, Brora
2004     Painswick
2005     Littlestone, Royal Cinque Ports (Deal)
2006     Royal Liverpool (Hoylake), Wallasey
2007     Alwoodley, Moortown
2008     Lundin Links, Elie
2009     Royal Cinque Ports (Deal), Royal St. George’s (Sandwich)
2010     Pennard, Royal Porthcawl
2011     Liphook, Hankley Common
2012     Silloth-on-Solway
2013     Noordwijkse, Royal Hague (other courses also played so these as official are debatable)
2014     St. Enodoc, Perranporth
2015     Notts, Sherwood Forest
2016     Carne, Enniscrone
2017     Rye, Littlestone
2018     Brora, Golspie
2019     Berwick-upon-Tweed (Goswick), Dunstanburgh Castle
2020     Kington, Welshpool (a little early, I know)
 
 
Yardages listed are from the tees that I think we played. On to the course. In addition to photos and description of the holes, I’ve also included something memorable about the course or experience.
 
HOLE 1
Royal St. George’s
Par 4, 399 yards
 
The look of the first tee at Sandwich is a perfect introduction to golf in the UK. I love the brilliant red of the tee box with the look of the old starter’s hut and nearly perfect links beyond. This place oozes charm. What a thrill to walk to this tee.
 
rsg 1 t marker by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
The first hole is no pushover, and provides a great introduction to links golf and what to expect from the day. You look out over this massive landscape, with a bumpy fairway and hollows to impact the roll of the ball off the tee. The approach has to contend with three bunkers that front more than half of the green, and a green that runs away from the approach. Right away, a player is challenged by random bounces and rolls off the tee and the need to control the distance of the approach. Welcome to links golf.
 
rsg 1 aerial by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
rsg 1 f by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
rsg 1 f2 by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Public footpaths (especially around links courses) are a common sight in the UK, and for the most part coexistence with golfers seems easy.
 
rsg 6 path marker by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
HOLE 2
Royal Hague (Koninklijke Haagsche Golf & CC)
Par 4, 370 yards
 
Across the North Sea from Sandwich lies my 2nd hole. There was only a single Buda conducted outside of GB&I, but it provided some great golf. The 2nd here requires a mostly blind tee shot across a left to right sloping hill. The landing area is in a sort of valley between the tee and green.
 
rh 2 aerial by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
rh 2 t by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Approaches are uphill to a skyline-ish green. GCA’s Frank Pont built this green to replace one that was built in the 70s.
 
rh 2 fwy by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Some very direct guidelines (in English).
 
rh sign by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
HOLE 3
Notts (Hollinwell)
Par 5, 514 yards
 
The 3rd at Notts is one of those clever holes that makes golf in England so memorable. This newish hole (built in 1912) looks simple enough, but it’s not. There’s loads of room off the tee. The second is where it gets very interesting.
 
notts 3 aerial by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
notts 3 t by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
With firm ground, even shorter hitters may be able to reach this downhill green. Attempting to do so – for any player – can bring problems. The green is angled to the fairway, so the easiest approach is a short iron over the bunkers on the left. Avoiding those bunkers by hitting a second shot to the right means dealing with a small swale and a difficult angle. The green is also only a few yards away from the entrance drive, which is not out of bounds. An approach hit too far to avoid bunkers or the swale results in a new set of problems.
 
notts 3 fw by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
notts 3 gr by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Apologies for the photos of this hole, which are pretty poor. The ones of the Holy Well that gives the course its Hollinwell name turned out a bit better.
 
notts hw by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
notts well by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
« Last Edit: April 03, 2020, 09:35:10 PM by John Mayhugh »

Bob Jenkins

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2020, 05:07:03 PM »



Hi John,


Great idea and well done! Looking forward to more.


Our tour around southern England including the 2009 Buda was a highlight for me and included a great group of people.


Best regards, Bob




Jason Topp

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2020, 12:34:55 AM »
A perfect dose of entertainment!

Mark Pearce

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2020, 03:40:12 AM »
If we want our first hole to be an introduction to links golf and its quirks, be a stiff test and have real quality, I'm going to suggest we should also look at Silloth, with its drive between the dunes and its blind approach to a sunken green and Elie, with the periscope and the first of many greens running away from the golfer.


As to the second, Royal Dornoch's love it or hate it par 3 seems a good candidate.


Great idea, John, and I'm really looking forward to seeing some debate here.  I will be appalled if we disagree on the 13th, though.....
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2020, 07:39:31 AM »
Thanks for the comments.

Mark offers good alternate suggestions for holes. Limiting myself to one hole per course and the actual hole numbers made for a bit of juggling around. I am happy with what I selected for Silloth, Elie, & Dornoch, but we will have to wait a bit for those. As for the 13th, we'll see. I picked something that wouldn't be universally loved.

I ended up having more courses to choose from than I could use. Helping out slightly, there were five courses I had not played (Littlestone, Liphook, Hankley, Hoylake, & Wallasey), so only had to leave off a few.


Mark Pearce

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2020, 02:23:08 PM »
Thanks for the comments.

Mark offers good alternate suggestions for holes. Limiting myself to one hole per course and the actual hole numbers made for a bit of juggling around. I am happy with what I selected for Silloth, Elie, & Dornoch, but we will have to wait a bit for those. As for the 13th, we'll see. I picked something that wouldn't be universally loved.

I ended up having more courses to choose from than I could use. Helping out slightly, there were five courses I had not played (Littlestone, Liphook, Hankley, Hoylake, & Wallasey), so only had to leave off a few.
I missed the one hole per course restriction, so I retract both my Elie and Silloth suggestions.  I'm alarmed by the suggestion that the 13th wouldn't be universally loved, though, as I can think of two 13ths that I would hope were...
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David_Tepper

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2020, 03:16:23 PM »
#9 and #16 at Golspie certainly merit consideration.

John Mayhugh

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2020, 04:04:51 PM »
 HOLE 4
St. Enodoc
Par 4, 292 yards
 
I wouldn’t have thought it possible, but playing golf in the UK has turned me into a fan of out of bounds. Not the kind of OOB we have in the US, but a strategic use of course boundaries. One of the best examples you can see of this is the fourth at St. Enodoc.
 
In this Eclectic 18 posted on The Fried Egg, Clyde Johnson does a much better job of describing the brilliance of 4th than I could ever do. If you haven’t seen the series, it’s well worth looking at all of the holes.
https://thefriedegg.com/eclectic-18-uk-st-enodoc/


The tee shot played here is likely to change often depending on the wind and the state of one’s swing. It’s not hard to find the fairway, but you wouldn’t fee that way standing on the tee.
 
ste 4 t by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
The closer the tee shot is to the boundary wall on the right, the easier the approach. From the left “safe” side, you must contend with a couple of bunkers and a steep drop off.
 
ste 4 strt by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
ste 4 bnk by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
The green is right up to the hill and wall defining the boundary. Minor misses will get nudged back to the green. Major misses might leave you taking advantage of this thoughtfully provided fence crossing.
 
ste 4 grn by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
ste 4 fence by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
St. Enodoc will also be memorable for the partially buried church out by the 10th green.
 
ste chrch by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
Good roads in Cornwall too.
 
ste road by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
HOLE 5
Rye
Par 3, 171 yards
 
Rye is blessed with a really good set of par 3s. The 5th probably gets talked about less than the others, but is a fine example of a bunkerless green. The tee shot carries a dune ridge and the green is on something of a plateau with ample opportunity for slight misses to become larger ones.
 
rye 5 t by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
rye 5 g by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
From behind, looking back towards the tee.
 
rye 5 g2 by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
One thing you can be virtually guaranteed of seeing at Rye – black labs. Nothing wrong with that.
 
rye 16 dogs from 12 2 by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
HOLE 6
Painswick
Par 3, 202 yards
 
Painswick is probably the most unconventional of the Buda venues, but has no shortage of good holes. Like Rye, the par 3s are noteworthy – none more so than the 6th. The straight uphill 5th is extraordinary in its own way, but not as universally admirable.
 
The 6th takes advantage of contours created by old quarrying work, which left mounds and hollows that can really impact a minor miss and recovery attempt.
 
pains 6 t by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
A little short and left can leave you in a large bowl.
 
pains 6 fwy by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
 
pains 6 bowl by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
Not the best photo from behind the green, but you can easily appreciate some of the randomness created by quarrying.
 
 
pains 6 gr rear by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Painswick could be dangerous if everyone around isn’t attentive, with a sometimes busy path running through the course.
 
pains dogs by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2020, 04:16:36 PM »
John - great thread! I was thinking Deal might get Hole #3 but your choice is a good one. Looking forward to the remainder of your choices. I've been to every Buda but the first two... lot's of fantastic memories!!!
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2020, 08:54:43 AM »
Michael,

I had a tough call with Deal's #3, as I love that green site. But think you should be happy with the hole I used.

That is an impressive Buda run.

Steve Wilson

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2020, 04:37:07 PM »
 Great idea, John!  Sure to cultivate some discussion.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2020, 06:27:32 PM »
Wonderful thread, John, and lovely work - thanks.
There's so many reasons why I so enjoy these glimpses of GB&I.
But, while every modern architect worth his/her salt praises the kind of courses you profile here, none of them seem to actually design-build golf holes very much like them!
That's an exaggeration, no doubt, but maybe not much of one.
Your opening hole is as good an example as any:
A less than 400 yard par 4, with a gentle dogleg right and plenty of room: sure, the moderns design many of those -- but not with three bunkers that guard half the green and a green that runs away from the approach!

mark chalfant

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 08:39:12 PM »

John,
Thanks for this educational post and the superb photos/ diagrams!


I echo Peter's sentiment about the lovely opening hole at Sandwich. Rye looks amazing too.

Lynn_Shackelford

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2020, 09:38:11 AM »
I doubt I can continue to follow this topic since Hankley Common won't have any holes eligible.  Just kidding of course.  It is an okay course.  Good pick on #4.

It must be kept in mind that the elusive charm of the game suffers as soon as any successful method of standardization is allowed to creep in.  A golf course should never pretend to be, nor is intended to be, an infallible tribunal.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2020, 10:10:25 AM »
Good comments - thanks.
Will try to get a few more holes posted today.

Garland Bayley

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2020, 10:59:28 AM »
Sean A put together an eclectic from like everywhere which included Perranporth 2. Can't wait to what hole from Perranporth made your list after you snubbed 2.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

John Mayhugh

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2020, 11:13:28 AM »
Sean A put together an eclectic from like everywhere which included Perranporth 2. Can't wait to what hole from Perranporth made your list after you snubbed 2.
Unfortunately, I couldn't include any hole from Perranporth as I've never been there. I overlooked it when making my list of places I hadn't played. Sorry.

John Mayhugh

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2020, 02:01:49 PM »
 HOLE 7
Pennard
Par 4, 357 yards
 
One of a handful of must holes is the 7th at Pennard. The work of James Braid figures prominently in this eclectic collection of holes, and Budas in general. Sean Arble’s guidance on this hole was to keep it “between church and state.” The rollicking hole has the ruins of medieval church on the left and Pennard Castle on the right. I encourage everyone to read Sean’s profile of the course and his history on the castle.
https://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/pennard-golf-club/pennard-golf-club2/
 
 
Obviously it was pretty dry when this aerial was taken. Note the bunkers short of the green that could be in play for either a long drive or misplayed approach.
 
pennard 7 aerial by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Few tee shots and fairways look more enticing than this.
 
pennard 7 tee by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
pennard 7 fwy by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
How about this view from the left rough over the church ruin?
 
pennard 7 left rough by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
The punchbowl-ish green from front right
 
pennard 7 gr by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
And the left side
 
pennad 7 gr left by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Finally, front left with the bay in the background (different day, different hole location)
 
pennard 7 gr bay by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
A closer look at the church ruin, but not too close thanks to the bovine resident.
 
pennard 7 church by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Pennard Castle was worth a brief delay in play to wander around.
 
pennard 7 castle by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
Wales was the first place I saw this approach to keeping grazing animals off the greens. Also the first place I saw with grazing animals.
 
pennard fence by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
HOLE 8
Royal Porthcawl
Par 5, 474 yards
 
 
Staying in Wales, the par 5 8th at Royal Porthcawl may be short yardage-wise, but it doesn’t play easy. The hole is bordered on the left by an out of bounds wall. There’s quite a bit of room between the fairway and the wall on the tee shot, but as the hole doglegs for the approach, the wall becomes much more of a concern for those trying to reach the green in two.
 
porth 8 map by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
As you stand on the tee, you see a lot more places that you want to avoid than where you want to be.
 
porth 8 tee by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
More of the same from the fairway. The uphill green is likely to tempt longer hitters, but trouble abounds.
 
porth 8 fwy by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
These two bunkers in the hill await a misplayed second shot.
 
porth 8 appr by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
This view from the left rough shows how close the boundary wall is.
 
porth 8 wall by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
The green from front left. Note how all of the bunkers are made larger by the contours around them.
 
porth 8 gr left by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Looking back from behind the green.
 
porth 8 gr rear by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Porthcawl has a terrific clubhouse and dormy house. The clubhouse has this impressive memorial to members and staff lost in the two World Wars.
 
porth mem by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
 
 
 
HOLE 9
Carne, Kilmore 9
Par 4, 430 yards
 
 
The first 9 ends with the 9th hole on the Kilmore course at Carne. The tee shot has to carry a narrow neck to get to the wider part fairway  the carry is around 220, but downhill.
 
carne 9 aerial by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Terrific view from the tee at the top of a dune.
 
carne 9 tee by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
Beautifully rumpled fairway. The approach is uphill.
 
carne 9 fwy by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Unfortunately I didn’t have any photos closer to the green. No need for bunkers with all of these contours.
 
carne 9 appr by john mayhugh, on Flickr

Thomas Dai was kind enough to send along this photo from behind 9 green looking back towards the elevated tee. What a landscape.
carne 9 gr from rear by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
One of the most memorable aspects of visiting Carne was the town of Bellmullet. A great time was had by all at O’Donnells pub. Apparently the same family owns the funeral home next door....
 
carne mcd by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
Bellmullet has a population of about 1k, with 10k people in the local district. Pretty good beer consumption on display.
 
carne kegs by john mayhugh, on Flickr
 
 
FIRST 9
Par 36, 3168 yards
 
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-6 posted
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2020, 02:48:50 PM »
Sean A put together an eclectic from like everywhere which included Perranporth 2. Can't wait to what hole from Perranporth made your list after you snubbed 2.
Unfortunately, I couldn't include any hole from Perranporth as I've never been there. I overlooked it when making my list of places I hadn't played. Sorry.

I didn't remember you being there, but when you put up the St Enodoc hole I figured my memory was faulty.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-9 now posted
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2020, 04:25:03 PM »
Garland,
I visited a number of Buda courses outside of Buda, and St. Enodoc, Notts, Rye & Painswick are the first 9 courses fitting that description.

Cliff Hamm

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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2020, 04:51:52 PM »
Played Carne, Hackett course, this summer and loved it. It would appear they have made changes so that the 18 hole course is now the back nine of the Hackett course and 9 holes of the Kildare course. It is renamed the Wild Atlantic Dunes golf course.


http://www.carnegolflinks.com/course/
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Sean_A

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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2020, 04:58:08 PM »
Very fine Tucky. Any all star list of holes which includes 4 St Enodoc and 7 Pennard can't be all bad!

You have a tough assignment with so few courses to choose from. Although it would be nice to know the near misses.

Carry on!

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Mark Pearce

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2020, 02:26:04 PM »
So, come on then, which 10th makes the cut?  We've been two whol days without an update.  We know it isn't St Enodoc (now that would be controversial).  It can't be Silloth (worst hole on the course).  You've got through the front 9 without a hole from Elie and the tenth in many ways sums Elie up (though it's far from the best hole IMHO)?
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James Reader

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-9 now posted
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2020, 02:56:09 PM »
So, come on then, which 10th makes the cut?  We've been two whol days without an update.  We know it isn't St Enodoc (now that would be controversial).  It can't be Silloth (worst hole on the course).  You've got through the front 9 without a hole from Elie and the tenth in many ways sums Elie up (though it's far from the best hole IMHO)?


Gibraltar must be in with a shout I’d have thought.  Although frankly I’d be more than happy to play any 10th hole at the moment!

Mark Pearce

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Re: Eclectic 18 - Buda course version - holes 1-9 now posted
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2020, 03:54:17 PM »
So, come on then, which 10th makes the cut?  We've been two whol days without an update.  We know it isn't St Enodoc (now that would be controversial).  It can't be Silloth (worst hole on the course).  You've got through the front 9 without a hole from Elie and the tenth in many ways sums Elie up (though it's far from the best hole IMHO)?


Gibraltar must be in with a shout I’d have thought.  Although frankly I’d be more than happy to play any 10th hole at the moment!
A very good shout.  Though our BUDA day at Moortown was so wet there was a river through the green on Gibraltar!
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.