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James Brown

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In the last couple of weeks the Hyno Designs channel on You Tube just loaded a ton of new Shells WWG matches from lots of great venues.


This series was my first exposure to many of the classics like Sunningdale and Pine Valley.  So glad to have more to devour. 


https://youtu.be/tSzSpfPjjFE


Erik J. Barzeski

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I generally ignore Rob, Tim, Garland, and Chris.

PCCraig

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Wow!! Awesome!!
H.P.S.

Peter Flory

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I'm very impressed by Sarazen's swing at age 60. 

I never liked watching these growing up.  But as time capsules, they are much more interesting.  Both to see the players and the courses. 

Tim Leahy

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Did they ever do a SWWG from Cypress Point? Did any of the golf exhibition shows ever film there?
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Peter Flory

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Did they ever do a SWWG from Cypress Point? Did any of the golf exhibition shows ever film there?


It doesn't look like it for Shell's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell%27s_Wonderful_World_of_Golf


I'd like to see the one at the Jockey Club, but I don't think it has been posted. 

Tim_Cronin

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These appear to have the location-setting segments Golf Channel always chops out for more commercials. Tremendous!
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Brian_Ewen

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WOW ... I have never been able to find the Royal Bangkok Sports Club one before   :D


Thanks!

Adam_Messix

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I hope the match at Kawana Fuji is posted at some point.  I can only imagine what Korai looked in the 1960s.

Thomas Dai

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Plenty of examples on these SWWoG episodes of how golf courses used to be maintained/conditioned, how the game used to be played and the kind of equipment players once used. Some 'interesting' clothes worn by the players, the spectators and the announcers too! :)
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Michael Whitaker

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2020, 11:28:10 AM »
For a good look at Southerndown watch the show featuring Bob Rosburg. Plus, Sarazen is resplendent in his plus-fours.  ;D
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Richard Fisher

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2020, 11:37:23 AM »
Southerndown was a remarkable choice of venue, certainly, with one eye to future GCA respect :)

Great likewise to see Joe Carr playing at Killarney

The film of this kind I would love to find is that of Harold Henning v Gay Brewer at Harlech in 1967, with commentary by Henry Longhurst - I know this was filmed around the time of the 1967 Open, because Brewer made a side-mission from Hoylake for the match. But I am not sure if this was a Shell WWofG fixture, or some BBC equivalent?

David Harshbarger

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2020, 03:05:38 PM »

Some 'interesting' clothes worn by the players, the spectators and the announcers too! :)

From Mike Cirba's excellent workup on Travis v. MacDonald, Travis says that contempt for golf-ware kept him away from the game for some time:


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...but the game made no appeal to me. I am free to confess that I had a mild contempt for it, inspired possibly by the garb of the players...

What is it about golfers and fopish attire?
The trouble with modern equipment and distance—and I don't see anyone pointing this out—is that it robs from the player's experience. - Mickey Wright

PCCraig

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2020, 10:33:40 PM »
How the heck can you beat Faldo vs. Norman in their primes played at Sunningdale? So good...
H.P.S.

jeffwarne

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2020, 11:07:30 PM »
ruined another day for me because I stayed up till 3 am watching Marr and Thompson at DePan...
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
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Sean_A

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2020, 05:43:48 AM »
ruined another day for me because I stayed up till 3 am watching Marr and Thompson at DePan...

Man, those greens are shaggy. Both guys really struggled with the putter.

I also noticed how wide the fairways were, yet more than once they were called narrow.

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Peter Pallotta

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2020, 12:50:57 PM »
How the heck can you beat Faldo vs. Norman in their primes played at Sunningdale? So good...
I was a fan of Nick Faldo, but every time I saw Greg Norman play I thought for sure he'd go on to win 100 tournaments and a dozen majors. One year at Doral, when it was still (with the equipment of the day) the Blue Monster, he absolutely dominated the course -- every aspect of his game was just superb. Lots of ways to try to rank the best of the best, but for sheer talent (and with my untutored eye) I'd put Norman just behind Tiger Woods.
And yes, that Sunningdale sure would be a lovely place to call home and play every day.

Tom Bagley

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2020, 01:45:44 PM »
This is fantastic.  I've seen most of these before but there are several that have not been aired regularly or that were not available on VHS or DVD's.  Of the modern era, Faldo vs. Norman at Sunningdale is the best, and also a perfect demonstration of how equipment changes affected the game beginning shortly thereafter.  Faldo and Norman were the two best players in the world at the time and they were hitting 7-irons from 155 yards and 2-and-3 irons not much more than 210-215.

Another sleeper, not yet uploaded, is Love vs. Leonard at Winged Foot East, from 1998, I believe - the year after Love won the US PGA on the West course.  The winning score of the match was around par on a very heavily treed East course, playing to a par 70.  It was a different game back then.

Anthony Butler

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2020, 01:50:56 PM »
These appear to have the location-setting segments Golf Channel always chops out for more commercials. Tremendous!
The Country Club match between Sanders and Casper features a quick historical overview of the Boston area with a shout out to my  town of Concord, MA as the site of the first shots of the Revolutionary War.
The one with Nicklaus and Player at Sunningdale New is also tremendous due to the fact that Peter Alliss provides the commentary.
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Tom Bagley

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2020, 02:14:52 PM »
If you watch the Sanders/Casper match from TCC carefully, you will note that the match started with the players teeing off into the rising sun on Hole #1, and finishing the round into the setting sun on Hole #18 - an example of the technological limitations of filming matches in those days.  With moving cameras around the golf course, it took the entire day to film the match.  It may be my imagination, but over the course of the long day, Doug Sanders' mood seemed to become more "convivial" for lack of a better term, a circumstance that did not endear him to Mr. Casper - particularly as Sanders' care-free late afternoon play resulted in a dramatic comeback.

The Nelson/Littler match from Pine Valley was reportedly filmed over two days, with very long delays between shots, a reason, perhaps for some of the inexplicably poor shots played by Gene Littler.

For those who are interested, there are two books that document the history of the Shell's series: Gene Sarazen and Shell's Wonderful World of Golf, by Al Barkow and Mary Ann Sarazen (Gene's daughter); and My Mulligan to Golf, by Fred Raphael, the show's producer, with Don Wade.   

Both books are pretty light, but entertaining, nonetheless.

PCCraig

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2020, 10:16:32 PM »
These appear to have the location-setting segments Golf Channel always chops out for more commercials. Tremendous!
The Country Club match between Sanders and Casper features a quick historical overview of the Boston area with a shout out to my  town of Concord, MA as the site of the first shots of the Revolutionary War.
The one with Nicklaus and Player at Sunningdale New is also tremendous due to the fact that Peter Alliss provides the commentary.


WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I just watched the Sanders v. Casper match at TCC.


So much cool stuff. Love the non-irrigated roughs at TCC. The bunkers there were "minimalist" before that was such a thing. The racetrack around the driving range was still there too.


Crazy how they were hitting 200-yard 3 woods into those tiny greens back then. Talk about skill.


Overall, the course course really hadn't changed much at all from the 60's to when I looped there 15 years ago.


Plus, how AMAZING is it to have Francis Ouimet out there introducing and walking the entire match?!?!


Loved the tour of the clubhouse and grounds of the club, complete with the Men's Only portion of the porch.


Awesome stuff.
H.P.S.

MCirba

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2020, 07:04:27 PM »
Who started this frigging thread?


I am already so behind on golf-related projects and commitments and now you send this my way.


Thanks...just frigging thanks.
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Peter Pallotta

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2020, 07:28:30 PM »
Yes, what Mike says.
And, a totally unexpected result/consequence of watching so many in a row:
A stark reminder that long-time host Jimmy Demaret, three time Masters winner, doesn't have a bridge named after him at Augusta -- which says something about Augusta (and yes, about Bobby Jones) that I don't like!
One of the episodes was from Peachtree, and started with Gene Sarazen interviewing Bobby Jones. It's an enjoyable interview, and a mutual admiration society, and Mr. Jones is as articulate as you'd imagine he would be. 
BUT
Near the end, Sarazen says "Well, I see my friend Jimmy Demaret standing at the first tee, so our match is about to start". 
Note: he doesn't say *our* friend, he says *my* friend.
And Mr. Jones doesn't say a word.

I'd always known something was up between Jimmy D and the men of the Masters, but that proved it to me.
But how could this be? He is so darn likable and funny and charming. And a wonderful golfer, and one of the very few who could maintain a fine and warm friendship with Ben Hogan -- so the I can't believe *he's* to blame for the rift.
And I'm not sure I can take the easy out and blame Cliff Roberts for it either. 


 
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Matthew Rose

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2020, 07:09:18 AM »
I believe he said a couple of mildly negative things about the course or the event when he was a TV broadcaster and Mr. Jones didn't like it. Think of it as like Gary McCord but a much earlier time.
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Sean_A

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Re: Tons of New Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf Matches Loaded on YouTube
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2020, 07:03:31 PM »
I just watched the match between B Nelson and G De Wit.  A past it Nelson had his ass handed to him at Royal Haagsche. It was wild to see Haagsche sans trees, although it was easy to see what would happen with all the saplings dotted about the place.  That said, it was still rough country when off the fairways!  The course looked to be beast.

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