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Peter Pallotta

I read that line a few days ago in an old book, and it brought this to mind:


Please offer your choice for the quintessentially English golf course -- focusing on the course/architecture itself, and not the 'club'.


Thanks
Peter

Joe Hancock

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2019, 06:12:04 PM »
I wish I knew the answer, as it would mean I would have seen many golf courses in England!


Maybe some day....
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Mark Chaplin

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2019, 08:21:08 PM »
Rye, Sandwich, Piltdown, Brancaster, Swinley Forest, St Enodoc, RAF there’s  dozens of them.
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2019, 09:16:25 PM »
Hey Joe.
Let's go to Liphook!
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Joe Hancock

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2019, 10:12:53 PM »
Hey Joe.
Let's go to Liphook!


Tell me when!
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2020, 01:23:09 AM »
I read that line a few days ago in an old book, and it brought this to mind:

Please offer your choice for the quintessentially English golf course -- focusing on the course/architecture itself, and not the 'club'.

Thanks
Peter
I would not choose a links course as they are more Scottish in nature than English. It should be an inland course that allows dogs... very English. Maybe a heathland course, but with a hint of parkland conditioning... to pay homage to the English garden. It should have a great manor house on its grounds, or within sight. The course should have been created by one of the great old English designers.


A good candidate might be Knole Park.
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Sean_A

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2020, 03:53:53 AM »
If the club is of no importance, the first course which comes to mind is Pulborough.

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MCirba

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2020, 08:28:49 AM »
Stoke Poges on name alone.
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Stewart Abramson

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2020, 09:00:10 AM »
I wonder if the English would have a different view than foreigners on what is quintessentially English. To this non-Englishman, I think of a course like St George's Hill. Designed by Colt, cool old clubhouse, great rolling heathland, the homes in the neighborhood and (I believe) named after the patron Saint of England. Even the notion of slaying a dragon associated with St George seems like Merry Old England to me.

Daryl David

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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2020, 11:10:21 AM »
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2020, 11:24:09 AM »
I have visions of Miss Marple and friends enjoying afternoon tea including cucumber sandwiches and sponge cake or scones while looking through the Clubhouse windows at players putting out on the 18th green.

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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2020, 11:42:41 AM »
When I think of English golf I think of the Berkshire as a quintessential English club. Old clubhouse, dogs on the course, and perfect heathland course.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2020, 07:57:19 AM »
Brancaster - Charming and not a bit fussy. Net for warming up. Magnificent war memorial. One of the most inviting clubhouses I've been in. Dogs. And a terrific golf course with a fair bit of quirk.

Other great seaside examples are Rye & Sandwich.

Heathland - West Sussex was a great call.

Ganton & Blackwell would round things out nicely. Play just a couple of these and you're guaranteed to want to return to England to see more.

Sean_A

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Re: Q#1 - "As English as two middle-aged women from Tunbridge Wells"
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2020, 04:09:23 AM »
Most places mentioned are club important courses. To be fair, the quintessential English course does conjur up at least as many club scenes as course scenes. The two go hand in glove.

I mentioned Pulborough because the club did not strike me as one with the pedigree of the closer to London clubs, however, I suspect in its neighbourhood the club rep is well known. Generally speaking, the further from London the less the club matters or at least the number of club important outposts is far less. There is an art for an important club to retain its position yet still remain friendly and down to earth.

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Peter Pallotta

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2020, 10:49:49 AM »
Thanks, Sean, gents
I am reading Robert Hunter's The Links -- and though he doesn't explore courses/design in terms of their 'English-ness' the reading brought the question to mind. I wanted to identify one course there and read more about it.  West Sussex seems a very good one.
Peter



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