I've had the good fortunate to spend some time talking architecture and touring courses with Jeff Brauer on a few occasions. In fact, I think I might have been with him on the visit to Franklin Hills he mentions on the podcast. Derek's and Jeff's conversation is another great addition to the Feed the Ball library/archive. I enjoyed hearing more about Jeff's methodology, and some history associated with his mentors, Dick Nugent and Ken Killian.
Every once in a while, it's nice to hear from guys in the business who aren't from the Pete Dye side of the tree