Thinking about #4 as I walked the course I could see that there was plenty of width, perhaps not as much as #2 but still pretty wide, but like I have learned from this site, angles approaching the green are so very important and what makes these course so special. The fellow who I was following put himself in a bad position by pushing a number of his drives and simply had very little chance of hitting the ball anywhere near the flagstick. His mistakes came about when he aimed at the flagsticks instead of going for a safer shot on the green but not necessarily close to the flag. Putting was also a challenge because the greens were very fast and putts going long could run on forever and possibly off the green. I believe it was 17 that the junior champion pushed his second shot right of the green into a sand path where he was in some footprints, hit his second shot on the green but it ran at least 20 feet off the green into a closely mowed area, hit his next shot short and his next shot he got on the green. So while the course wasn't playing that long it certainly was playing difficult.