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Greg Hohman

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Home of mental illness
« on: July 12, 2019, 10:54:00 AM »
What golf properties have been repurposed into hospitals/homes for the mentally ill? Grounds and clubhouse more or less intact.
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Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 03:41:57 PM »
The opposite occurred in Stony Point, NY.  Patriot Hills is routed on the ground and plays between some of the buildings, and uses two of the old buildings for the pro shop and the clubhouse.
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Greg Smith

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 04:33:23 PM »
Harry Vardon spent some time in Mundesley Sanatorium with TB.  In his time, the sanatorium had a 9-hole golf course (which he had designed).  The golf course had its own clubhouse though, and Vardon designed/built it before he was an inmate there.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 04:48:14 PM »
I guess poor ole Harry couldn't get a grip.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 05:37:41 PM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 12, 2019, 04:48:14 PM
I guess poor ole Harry couldn't get a grip.


awesome
made my day
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Mike Sweeney

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 07:50:38 PM »
Broadacres is a 9 hole on the still barely existing Rockland County (NY) Psychiatric Center - https://www.broadacresgolf.com


and it looks like Harlem Valley 9 hole has finally closed - https://www.golflink.com/golf-courses/ny/wingdale/harlem-valley-golf-club - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Valley_State_Hospital


As the Father of a Developmentally Disabled son (Autism), I challenge you to define "Mental Illness". It's a really really big bucket that NOBODY thinks they are in. If you post on a website for 15+ years, there is a pretty good chance...  :)
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Greg Hohman

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 09:48:48 AM »
Rockland/Broadacres may serve my purpose, thank you. My interest is schizophrenia.

Ginsberg refers to Rockland in “Howl.”
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2019, 01:01:56 PM »
Is the term "inmate" reserved for prisons?
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Ian Andrew

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2019, 04:33:44 PM »
Decided on a personal message instead.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2019, 04:35:53 PM by Ian Andrew »
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James Brown

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2019, 05:36:19 PM »
The Veterans home in DC dates back to the 1840sa d has 9 holes.  Lincoln had his summer cottage there.  It is now a retirement home but used to be a hospital and sanitarium. 
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Greg Gilson

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2019, 05:38:02 PM »
Gailes outside Brisbane is/was beside a facility like you describe
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2019, 05:59:38 PM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 12, 2019, 04:48:14 PM
I guess poor ole Harry couldn't get a grip.


Some might find it amusing but attempting to be humorous at the expense of those with health issues is highly inappropriate and offensive and does not show the ‘joker’ in a good light. Please restrain from such posts in the future.
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Chris_Blakely

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2019, 06:12:29 PM »
Quote from: Greg Hohman on July 12, 2019, 10:54:00 AM
What golf properties have been repurposed into hospitals/homes for the mentally ill? Grounds and clubhouse more or less intact.


Yarrow Golf and Conf Center, Yarrow, MI by Ray Hearn


https://www.golfadvisor.com/courses/21056-yarrow-golf-course



https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2015/10/yarrow.html
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2019, 07:09:29 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Dai on July 13, 2019, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 12, 2019, 04:48:14 PM
I guess poor ole Harry couldn't get a grip.


Some might find it amusing but attempting to be humorous at the expense of those with health issues is highly inappropriate and offensive and does not show the ‘joker’ in a good light. Please restrain from such posts in the future.
Atb.


I apologize if you were triggered. TB is not a mental illness. It was a corny joke about a golf grip on a golf forum. You sir need to get over it. I don't think they are locking people up for TB these days.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis
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James Brown

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 07:39:02 PM »
Come on.  That was damn funny and I don’t think John is that funny. 
« Last Edit: July 13, 2019, 07:51:10 PM by James Brown »
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Mike Sweeney

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2019, 07:42:28 PM »
Quote from: James Brown on July 13, 2019, 07:39:02 PM
Come on.  That was damn funny and I don’t John is that funny.


John has given "blessings" to my son. I live in NYC, and I am waiting for a check :)


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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2019, 07:57:32 PM »
I will admit that before I pressed send I considered that some millennial out there may not have heard of the Vardon grip and would get triggered. All I can do is promise that next time a template pun comes to mind I will tread more carefully. Lord knows that my template jokes out in the real world have not gone well.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2019, 09:26:13 PM »
The trouble is you went with a 'pun', which is not your style of humour. And it wasn't even a very good pun, except for the humour I found in you trying out a pun. Be true to yourself JK and you won't get in trouble. Remember: 'Denial ain't just a river in Egypt'. 
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2019, 09:40:13 PM »
I believe the common term is "Dad Joke".
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jeffwarne

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2019, 10:07:42 PM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 13, 2019, 09:40:13 PM
I believe the common term is "Dad Joke".


which would explain why I found it highly entertaining...
of course I still wear pleats...
Go Adam Scott
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2019, 04:26:15 AM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 13, 2019, 07:09:29 PM
Quote from: Thomas Dai on July 13, 2019, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 12, 2019, 04:48:14 PM
I guess poor ole Harry couldn't get a grip.
Some might find it amusing but attempting to be humorous at the expense of those with health issues is highly inappropriate and offensive and does not show the ‘joker’ in a good light. Please restrain from such posts in the future.
Atb.
I apologize if you were triggered. TB is not a mental illness. It was a corny joke about a golf grip on a golf forum. You sir need to get over it. I don't think they are locking people up for TB these days.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis


John,


Thank you for your somewhat tempered apology, although to be honest given your subsequent posts I have significant doubts as to how sincerely it is meant.


Being both a dad who is not a millenial and someone who has been around golf for long enough to understand the Vardon grip I did have an inkling as to your attempt at humour, decidedly poor attempt that it is.


As to your phrase "You sir need to get over it", frankly John, I think it's you that needs to get over it and in future consider for a longer period of time before you touch or click the post icon.


And by the way, don't ever get ill, it's far from amusing.


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Greg Hohman

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2019, 11:52:34 AM »
Yarrow, which is in Augusta MI, is now indeed such a facility. It is called Skywood. According to a video on its website, the cart paths were retained to help people around the property. Not many photos. One, however, is clearly some fw and a green complex, both uncannily shorn of their golf features, like a bad (to us in the DG) haircut or a stage without props or an actor without makeup. OK, I will leave it at that.  ;)
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2019, 01:31:04 PM »
I'm curious about the initial question, seems very specific....golf courses turned into facilities for the mentally ill.  Whats the connection?


P.S.  I will certainly agree there is far far more mental illness going on that people will ever admit to....
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Greg Hohman

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2019, 06:18:32 PM »
Kalen, explaining the connection, which has to do with my site, would take us far from GCA.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Home of mental illness
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2019, 07:18:20 PM »
Quote from: Greg Hohman on July 14, 2019, 06:18:32 PM
Kalen, explaining the connection, which has to do with my site, would take us far from GCA.


Its all good Greg, just curious.  I suppose if a course was owned by a municipal or county entity, and wanted to convert the land for this purpose, that would be plausible..
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