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Dave Doxey

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2019, 09:54:56 AM »

I don't understand all the complaining about how golf should be.   Complaints from a member of a private club don't make sense.  If you don't like the music, dress, maintenance, or whatever, lobby for your club to change rules.  If your club rules or maintenance aren't to your liking, switch to a club that thinks like you.  The members are what makes up a private and set the standards.  You get what you select.


If you play public golf, resign yourself to take what you find.  Perhaps your selection of public courses might help, but overall it's the general public.  Find a regular group of partners that you enjoy.


As for rules, unless you are among the very small minority that play in competition, decide on rules with your regular group and ignore the "official" rulebook.  Again, select the people that you play with and enjoy the game. Unless you're on the tour, you aren't good enough for rules to really matter

John Kavanaugh

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2019, 10:12:09 AM »
Old men have been trying to change the rules for so long that no one listens. Yesterday my 23 yr old son was explaining to me how much he loves Top Golf and how great it is for the game. He attends LSU and says it has the best bar in town. He told me his friends now talk about going out to a real course and playing. He is begging me to come down and enjoy an evening of Top Golf. I was quickly reminded that only a douche bag brings his own clubs. I forgot to ask about a glove. I need my damn glove.


You can't change old men, you can only watch them die. Hopefully before you become one yourself.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2019, 10:23:22 AM »
I want to suck Valvoline out of a can at a sausage factory.

Kalen Braley

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2019, 02:00:30 PM »
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In other words, golf could "do without" all the snobby exclusivity, and be nicer to kids so that - God forbid - they have somebody to emulate besides Joe Six-Pack at the local muni.

I don't think its possible to have a more contradictory sentence...

Pete_Pittock

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2019, 03:46:02 PM »

the letter f.
When someone sinks a long put everyone yells "gol", even stretch it out.
The sport will become immensely popular.

Gib_Papazian

Re: What can golf do without? New
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2019, 04:35:39 PM »
Kalen, I want you to step onto the wayback machine and remember the level of civility and manners at public courses 40 or 50 years ago. There is no comparison to the rude, entitled way in which people behave in this brave new me me me era. Go to most CCFAD facilities and tell me their approach upholds the traditional values of our game.


How about this - I will amend my post and assert that Americans ought to emulate the good manners and etiquette of public players in England, Ireland, Ulster, Wales and Scotland. I'll quote a letter I once received from the Lady Captain at Musselburgh: "Hell mend ye who holds up play or ignores our rules of etiquette." 


As far as American country clubs are concerned, by and large, they do a Shiite job of encouraging youngsters - and less than zero in bringing young girls into the game. That might be the reason for the avalanche of foreign nationals sucking up a huge percentage of the women's golf scholarships under Title IX - since otherwise, many of those scholarships would go into the trash unused.


I don't give a shit if you are wearing jersey Shore cutoffs and a balloon hat - as long as you move along, wave players up, fix every single ball mark (plus two more), rake the bunkers properly - and carefully replace your divots. It used to be that people respected and took pride in their local golf course - and treated it with care.


Now, like everything else in this fractured mess of a nation, payment of a green fee means you can do whatever you want out there - because everybody from the Assistant Pros to the elderly Marshal is terrified to insist people act with class and respect on the golf course.


And that is because - in line with everything else - youngsters were not taught the basics. So, two generations later, most muni courses have degenerated into abused shitholes.     


   
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Kyle Harris

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2019, 07:40:10 AM »
The "I wrote the book on the (architect/course/subject) therefore I am the only authority on the matter" Golf Historian.
http://kylewharris.com

Constantly blamed by 8-handicaps for their 7 missed 12-footers each round.

“Split fairways are for teenagers.”

-Tom Doak

John Kavanaugh

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2019, 07:44:54 AM »
What is so wrong with dress codes? I didn't own a pair of jeans until where I play golf relaxed its standards. Now I wear jeans most every day and am worse off for it.

Kalen Braley

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Re: What can golf do without?
« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2019, 09:52:50 AM »
Another thing to live without.

After watching yesterdays final round at Pebble. Yes they had a hail stone delay, but.....

When play resumed the leaders/last group teed off just after 12:30 local time.  4 hours later, this same group were teeing off on 12.  I know they have some slow rounds on tour, but seriously 4 hours to play 11 holes?