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Steve_Roths

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2019 Openings
« on: November 20, 2018, 09:47:10 AM »
Just starting to think through what is going to open in 2019 for play:


Ozark National (soft opening in 2018)
Par 3 course at Castle Stuart
Par 3 course at Cabot
Par 3 course at Gamble Sands
Arcadia South (soft opening in 2018)
Payne's Valley (most likely 2020)
Putting Green at Sand Valley?


Dream/Development Phase


4th course at Streamsong (Lido)
4th course at Sand Valley
Coul Links
Sheep Ranch at Bandon
Par 3 course at Bandon (Doak?)
Wynn Course Redo
Fazio in Nashville - Discovery Land Co



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Brad Tufts

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2018, 09:54:54 AM »

Probably 2020, but Hanse at Forest Dunes


Also Hanse redo at Narin & Portnoo, prob 2020 as well.
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Brian Ross

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 09:55:46 AM »
Braemar Golf Course in Edina, MN - Mid-May 2019
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Ben Kodadek

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2018, 11:53:28 AM »
The Pelican Golf Club will open in Belleair, FL.   Word from buddies who have done the tour, it's going to be better than Old Memorial and more fun than The Concession.   
« Last Edit: November 20, 2018, 01:08:17 PM by Ben Kodadek »
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Dan Gallaway

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 11:58:16 AM »
Haven’t heard a thing about a par 3 course at Gamble Sands.  Do you have any links to articles.  Would love to hear more about that.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 12:56:55 PM »
How many of those are even built now?  If they aren't built now, they're not opening in 2019 ... well, except the one project I'm about to start.


I asked Ron Whitten how many new courses he expected in 2019 for the Best New competition.  He wasn't sure yet but he said there had been 19 this year, including a few tear-down remodels, and he would be surprised if it was even that many next year.


Our sole 2019 opening is The National in Australia.  We changed the Ocean course so much they are going to re-name it.


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John Kavanaugh

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 01:01:13 PM »
Maybe if a par 3 course wins best new it will finally legitimize the "executive" hole-in-one.
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JC Jones

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 01:08:34 PM »
Quote from: Brad Tufts on November 20, 2018, 09:54:54 AM

Probably 2020, but Hanse at Forest Dunes


Also Hanse redo at Narin & Portnoo, prob 2020 as well.


Is that official?  I hadn't heard.
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Steve_Roths

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2018, 01:12:55 PM »
Correction on Gamble Sands.  It was a second course not a par 3 course.


I noted this on DMK's Instagram page.
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Brad Tufts

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2018, 01:58:07 PM »
Quote from: JC Jones on November 20, 2018, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: Brad Tufts on November 20, 2018, 09:54:54 AM

Probably 2020, but Hanse at Forest Dunes


Also Hanse redo at Narin & Portnoo, prob 2020 as well.


Is that official?  I hadn't heard.



After more research, I think Hanse at FD was just conjecture from Ginella and LINKS mag.  So unconfirmed.


N&P is official.


The LINKS article about "what Hanse is up to next" (seems to be written mid-2018) mentions "Ballyshear" at Ben Rakat in Thailand and a new course at Les Bordes in France.







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Steve_Lovett

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2018, 03:02:17 PM »
What ever became of the redesign of The Pit, around Pinehurst? A few years ago I think I remember reading about construction starting as course 9 or 10 or whatever is next, but I haven't heard any more about it. Could it be on the horizon again soon?

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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2018, 04:42:32 PM »
NINE GRAND
THREE GRAND - Huckaby and Barney are invited to the grand opening!
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David_Tepper

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 04:43:14 PM »
"Par 3 course at Castle Stuart"

Steve R. -

I am not aware of a par-3 course being contemplated much less under construction at Castle Stuart.

There are plans for a second 18-hole course there. However at this point construction on it has not begun, nor has a date been announced when it will begin.

DT
     
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Jeff Schley

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2018, 10:02:08 PM »
I don't know the latest schedule, but Michael Jordan's Grove XXIII is scheduled to open is 2019 last I saw down in Hobe Sound, Fl.  Bobby Weed design.  Love to check that place out when it opens as it won't be anything like a typical golf club.
BTW of mention is that Bobby Weed is using data to design the course from Darren May's "Every Shot Counts" who is supposedly The Grove XXIII's golf coach and ambassador.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2018, 10:09:01 PM by Jeff Schley »
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2018, 01:43:55 AM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on November 20, 2018, 04:43:14 PM
"Par 3 course at Castle Stuart"

Steve R. -

I am not aware of a par-3 course being contemplated much less under construction at Castle Stuart.


DT
     



I am not sure Castle Stuart is either.
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Kyle Harris

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2018, 06:06:24 AM »
Quote from: Ben Kodadek on November 20, 2018, 11:53:28 AM
The Pelican Golf Club will open in Belleair, FL.   Word from buddies who have done the tour, it's going to be better than Old Memorial and more fun than The Concession.


All that at the mere cost of a good-to-great actual Donald Ross course?
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Ben Kodadek

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2018, 09:05:03 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Harris on November 21, 2018, 06:06:24 AM
Quote from: Ben Kodadek on November 20, 2018, 11:53:28 AM
The Pelican Golf Club will open in Belleair, FL.   Word from buddies who have done the tour, it's going to be better than Old Memorial and more fun than The Concession.


All that at the mere cost of a good-to-great actual Donald Ross course?


This is from Golfcoursearchitecture.com but I find it impossible to believe...


"Though a full restoration was deemed unfeasible after research due to a lack of historic records of the property, Welling has looked to create a course that is reminiscent of Ross’s era and includes many of his principles and styles."
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Steve_Roths

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2018, 10:35:10 AM »
Par 3 course at Castle Stuart is for sure.  Mark Parsinen (sp) is designing and building it.  I've seen the dirt being moved with my own eyes.  It will get done before the Palmer Course.



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Kyle Harris

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2018, 10:59:25 AM »
Quote from: Ben Kodadek on November 21, 2018, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: Kyle Harris on November 21, 2018, 06:06:24 AM
Quote from: Ben Kodadek on November 20, 2018, 11:53:28 AM
The Pelican Golf Club will open in Belleair, FL.   Word from buddies who have done the tour, it's going to be better than Old Memorial and more fun than The Concession.


All that at the mere cost of a good-to-great actual Donald Ross course?


This is from Golfcoursearchitecture.com but I find it impossible to believe...


"Though a full restoration was deemed unfeasible after research due to a lack of historic records of the property, Welling has looked to create a course that is reminiscent of Ross’s era and includes many of his principles and styles."


I fear they've flattened and broadened the excellent 15th hole and probably absolutely gutted the compelling 12th. For a flat site, that much variety in Par 3s and 5s should be preserved. I doubt it was.

Also rather bitter about losing a great affordable option in Pinellas County that didn't come with all the nonsense surrounding the experience at Dunedin.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2018, 06:08:06 AM »
Anything new in Cali in 2019?  Redo's?
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Daryl David

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2018, 03:48:38 PM »
Quote from: Tim Leahy on November 23, 2018, 06:08:06 AM
Anything new in Cali in 2019?  Redo's?


Columbia?   ;D
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2018, 04:43:10 PM »
One that is very much under the radar is Torvean Golf Club in Inverness. So with the apparent par three course at CS that makes two in the Highlands.
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Kevin_Reilly

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2018, 05:37:34 PM »
Quote from: Tim Leahy on November 23, 2018, 06:08:06 AM
Anything new in Cali in 2019?  Redo's?


Half of the North course at Alameda is supposed to be done in 2019, with the second half in 2020.


https://coricapark.com/north-course/
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David_Tepper

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2018, 09:01:44 PM »
"Par 3 course at Castle Stuart is for sure.  Mark Parsinen (sp) is designing and building it.  I've seen the dirt being moved with my own eyes.  It will get done before the Palmer Course."

Steve Roths -

You are right and I was very wrong. My apologies. Clearly I was not as well informed as I thought I was.

DT

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Ben Malach

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Re: 2019 Openings
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2018, 10:00:03 PM »
The Cabot Par 3 is most likely 2020 they hadn't started anything serious when I left at the start of July this year. 
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