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Jamie Pyper

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NGLA Routing Questions
« on: October 20, 2018, 09:20:22 AM »
Last evening I re-read my brochure from the 2013 Walker Cup Matches held at the NGLA, and in particular the history behind C B Macdonald's search for his "Ideal Golf Course" and ultimate routing decisions. While the NGLA has been covered extensively over the years on this site,  I could not find any specific answers to a few questions.  In the absence of George Bahto , I was hoping that there are a few   on here with insider knowledge on this subject that could respond to my queries.


After a thorough search throughout Long Island, Macdonald finally selected a 450 acre parcel of which he took an option on 205 acres in June of 1907 for $ 200.00 per acre.  A condition of sale was MacDonald could cherry pick which 205 acres of the 450 acre plot he wanted.


Questions: 
1. Was the remaining 245 acres not selected the same site of present day Sebonac Golf Club, which remained under developed for an additional 9 decades? 
2.  As a man of great financial means, is there any account as to why he didn't purchase the entire parcel?
3.  If this was the case, MacDonald could have utilized up to a mile of direct waterfront on Great Peconic Bay instead of opting to rout his course inland adjacent to Shinnecock. Was his reasoning to start and finish his course in closer proximity to the only access road of the day, and the proposed initial clubhouse location along Southampton Road?


















Jim Nugent

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Re: NGLA Routing Questions
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2018, 11:43:06 AM »
Jayme, when CBM and Jim Whigham were riding/walking the land, they quickly found the Alps and Redan.  Shortly after they found their Eden and Cape.  I think that anchored much of the course, and led to the routing we see today. 


I'm guessing he didn't buy all 450 acres because he didn't need them.  He didn't need half of them.  Money was not unlimited: at first they didn't have enough funds to build a clubhouse.  On top of which the land was in many places impoverished.  After clearing it CBM estimated they covered it with 10,000 loads of topsoil (IIRC those are truckloads).     

Steve Lang

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Re: NGLA Routing Questions
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2018, 12:28:43 PM »
Jamie,


There was a whopper of a thread on NGLA back in 2015, 56 pages of some really good stuff and some repeated talking back and forth that was not so good...  that'll answer your questions and then some! 


Check it out at


Was C.B. Macdonald's routing of  NGLA



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