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Ran Morrissett

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Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« on: January 03, 2018, 04:19:25 PM »
 http://golfclubatlas.com/courses-by-country/usa/yeamans-hall-club-sc-usa/

The Morrissetts were in Pinehurst a few decades ago and we came across a plaque in the Carolina Hotel from GOLF Magazine that was titled (something like) the Golden Dozen. Pinehurst No. 2 was obviously on it along with the usual list of suspects including Pebble, Cypress, Augusta, Pine Valley, etc. I am vague on the rest. I understood why it was hanging (the resort was represented!) but I never understood its purpose – why make a condensed list of household name courses? Nonetheless, the name stuck with me and occasionally, I think, what courses would make my dozen favorite places for a game? Not necessarily the best (whatever that means), God knows not hardest, but favorite places.

We start the year off with one that would make the cut, namely Yeamans Hall situated in the low country outside of Charleston. GolfClubAtlas.com stays away from awards; rather it goes into detail about the work accomplished at certain places and the reader can draw his own conclusions. Having said that  ;) , if we were to give out a 2017 Restoration of the Year Award, it would go here. The amazing thing? This would be the second time in 20 years that YHC would win the award! I won’t repeat what is in the profile and explain how that could possibly be the case but suffice to say, today’s course is as dialed in as any in America with which I am familiar, joining such wonderfully presented courses as the Cal Club, Los Angeles Country Club, Essex County MA, Rock Creek, Cape Arundel and Chechessee Creek. 

After the gut wrenching damage sustained in the fall of 2015 from 4 feet of rain, what an awesome bounce back by the Club. Fishers Island enjoys a spectacular component that no course on the east coast matches and yet, as a show piece for Raynor’s architecture, I reckon so many things are so right at Yeamans Halls that it would be my first stop to take someone to illustrate Raynor’s brand of architecture.

Discussing Yeamans is like discussing The Old Course: if the person you are conversing with doesn’t get excited about alternate routes, hazards in the line of play, and green contours, I switch subjects for we will have little in common. In fact, there are so many playing commonalities between YHC and TOC, I remain amazed that Raynor never saw St. Andrews in person. Nonetheless, he sure understood golf and Yeamans Hall sure understands Raynor.

Best,
« Last Edit: January 17, 2018, 08:24:36 AM by Ran Morrissett »

Robert Kimball

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 04:22:52 PM »
WOW WOW WOW . . . . This looks like so much fun. Great Raynor restoration!  On the list for sure.


Thank you for the write up,


Rob

Paul Carey

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 05:03:49 PM »
Great write up.  I can’t wait to see it after the most recent renovation.  It’s hard to believe it could get better but it sounds like it was accomplished.  Thank you

Craig Disher

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 05:48:31 PM »
Ran,
Another fine profile. Thanks. A young assitant at Chechessee Creek visited Yeamans Hall a few weeks ago not knowing its history. While he was playing he thought YH must have some connection to Chechessee Creek, the courses seemed so similiar in what they were asking of the golfer and how they captured the character of the low country. I'll make sure he sees your profile.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 07:16:48 PM »
I'm confused why Jim's presentation of green sizes shows the greens from 1995, when they were all rebuilt pretty close to their correct size in 2004.


(Actually, I'm not confused why.)

Mike Sweeney

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 08:09:02 PM »
I only got to play one round last week in SC at the previously mentioned True Blue, but I think "winter conditions" on dormant Bermuda grass is really fun to play on. Thanks for the specifics on the YH grass updates.


We got to Charleston, SC for a day trip, and certainly YH stays/moves up on the bucket list as I love that town. The "other Raynor" in town, CC of Charleston, is hosting the US Women's Open in 2019:


http://www.usga.org/articles/2015/12/country-club-of-charleston-to-host-2019-u-s--women-s-open.html



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Dr. Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Jay Mickle

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2018, 08:27:41 PM »
Your profile makes me want to go back more than ever.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2018, 08:34:47 PM »
When I posted that Notts seemed like an ideal 'home course', Joe H responded that he thought I'd love YH. And, yes, he was right! From Ran's profile it seems to offer all the beauty and peace one could want, with smart but 'quiet' architecture, and with the green to tee walks short and the golf season long. And you can almost feel though the photos that 'Time' and 'Timelessness' intermingle there; and that clock-time takes a back seat to psychic-time. Heck, I wouldn't even have to actually play golf to enjoy the golf course!
Just noticed Jay's post - very glad you got to be there, Jay! 

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Craig Disher

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2018, 09:53:45 PM »
I'm confused why Jim's presentation of green sizes shows the greens from 1995, when they were all rebuilt pretty close to their correct size in 2004.

Tom, Do you know how soon after 1925 that the large bunker in front of #5 disappeared? I have an aerial from 1949 that shows the same two bunkers as Jim Urbina's 1995 aerial.

Joe Bausch

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2018, 06:06:18 AM »
Thanks for the updated profile, Ran.

YH has a wonderful atmosphere and is a beautiful walk.

Photos from 2010 for comparison:

http://myphillygolf.com/uploads/bausch/YeamansHall/index.html
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Jeff_Lewis

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2018, 01:14:23 PM »
There are places that just have the magic.  Yeaman's has always been one of them.  Great write-up.   

ward peyronnin

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2018, 01:19:52 PM »
I am a bit flummoxed as I have played YHC since 1994 but I can't quite id where those bitchin' dragons teeth are.

No 15?
"Golf is happiness. It's intoxication w/o the hangover; stimulation w/o the pills. It's price is high yet its rewards are richer. Some say its a boys pastime but it builds men. It cleanses the mind/rejuvenates the body. It is these things and many more for those of us who truly love it." M.Norman

ward peyronnin

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2018, 01:23:01 PM »
Must No 12 I reckon
"Golf is happiness. It's intoxication w/o the hangover; stimulation w/o the pills. It's price is high yet its rewards are richer. Some say its a boys pastime but it builds men. It cleanses the mind/rejuvenates the body. It is these things and many more for those of us who truly love it." M.Norman

PCCraig

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2018, 11:22:13 PM »
What a terrific write up, Ran. I was following the Superintendent, Brooks Riddle, all summer on Twitter where he was documenting the restoration. For a golf course nerd it was incredibly fun to follow, and it is always fascinating to get a glimpse into the inner workings of a club of Yeamans stature.


Yeamans Hall is certainly a special place and the recent work there appears to have done nothing but enhance the experience.


Congratulations to the Club, Brooks, and the membership on what appears to be a successful restoration.
H.P.S.

JC Urbina

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2018, 10:17:08 PM »
Ran,


I really appreciate your recent observations on Yeamans Hall.


This club has embraced the importance of its history.  Yeamans Hall never strayed away from its Raynor design philosophies regardless of recent trends in golf architecture that affected many of the other golden age designs.  For 20 years I have been driving down that dirt entrance road marveling every time I set foot on to this wonderful piece of property.


No matter the year, no matter the committee or the membership that passed through the grounds, the one thing that is always understood and that is what a Seth Raynor design stands for.


Thankfully Jim Yonce found those all important drawings back in the 90's and a committee that realized the importance of Seth Raynor and the Olmstead brothers contribution to this piece of property. 


Today Brooks Riddle and his staff continue on the tradition.  Ran, you have captured  in your writings the appeal of this place and its importance in golf design, it truly deserves many return trips to appreciate all that it has to offer.


Two shapers  I have to thank, George Watters in the early years  and recently Joe Hancock who helped me with the recent 2017 work.  We had a helluva of  a team working on the project this past summer.
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Doug Wright

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2018, 02:18:59 PM »
Some thoughts about my first visit to Yeaman’s Hall a couple weeks back. As a preface, I haven’t played many MacRaynor courses, Old Macdonald being my principal comparative. I encourage you to read Ran’s review from January 2018 that started this thread; his comments are of course more thoughtful and comprehensive than mine. As is my wont (though I could not resist the current Mammoth Dunes thread…) I assiduously avoided reading Ran’s review before playing Yeaman’s Hall in order to see for myself.

The first impression is one of anticipation. You cross the single railroad track, enter the property through the guard house and then drive a half mile on a dirt road that crosses the expansive first fairway (golfers have the right of way) to the clubhouse/golf shop area. I’m planning to take a cart, which is not my preference, but it’s my second round of the day and it’s a humid 90+ degrees!  However, the assistant pro says, “You might take a pushcart, it’s a pretty easy walking course.” Which I do, and he’s right.

The opening three holes are a great introduction to the course. Particularly, the green sites, greens and bunkering get one’s attention. Perfectly square greens? What’s up with that? A very wide first fairway allows one to swing away freely and leads to a mid iron over a Principal’s Nose bunker to a beautifully restored Plateau green. Pin positions abound.  The shortish second hole (Leven) requires a draw around the only encroaching tree on the course to avoid the prominent right side fairway bunkers that are perfectly placed. Again an interesting green complex, skillfully bunkered.   The Short third hole has a lovely view of the marsh behind. The center bowl and side tiers make this a blast to putt.

One of my favorite holes on the course is the Bottle hole 4th.  There’s a bit more room in the landing area here than at Old Macdonald’s 10th (the other Bottle hole I’ve played), and I think this hole is better for it. A perched false front greensite with a spine and other interesting green contours. There is a (new?) back tee for the 4th hole located behind the 3rd green that must be 100 yards behind the tee I played—must be a beast of a hole from back there.

The “Alps” 5th had me wondering “where are the Alps” as I didn’t see any hill or blindness a la Prestwick. I loved the grass and sand bunkering sprinkled throughout the 5th fairway, adding both interest and strategy. I wish more courses used the kind of grass fairway mounding featured on this hole. The Redan 6th  is terrific. Very different from other Redans I’ve seen due to the narrowness of the green but a fun hole to play. The bunkering around the green is really well done.

The last three holes on the front nine and the first two on the back nine (Road (which seemed like a stretch to call it that vs. other Road holes I’ve seen) /Creek/Long/Cape/Maiden) are all solid holes, but none of them except #10 (Cape) made my list of favorite holes on the course. The bunkering on the par 5 9th  was well placed, especially the bunker benched into the right hillside on the tee shot. The tee shot on #10 was appropriately “Cape-like”; certainly not as good as the tee shot on Old Macdonald #9 but still requiring some thought. I thought #8 and #11 were pretty similar holes with similar playing characteristics.

There is a lot of interesting golf from #12 through the finishing hole. A refreshingly short par 4, #12 (Narrows) requires thought on the tee shot to attack the angled green. An excellent par 3 Eden follows, and then the par 4 14th to a  terrific green (Knoll). The long par 4 15th (Lido) and long par 3 Biarritz 16th are both very challenging holes. I loved the Biarritz, just a blast to try to use the slopes. Similar to the Alps hole, I wasn’t sold that there was much of a “Punchbowl” to the 17th green. The 18th is a fair and lovely closing par 5 back to the clubhouse.
     
Conclusion: A really fine golf course, one that passes the test of “you could play it every day and not get bored”. The routing takes you on a tour around the playing fields of the property with the generally gentle slopes strategically used. You’ll enjoy the walk and the course won’t beat you up. Just wonderful, really interesting greens and a very thoughtful restoration by Jim Urbina.

Favorite Holes: The par 3s are terrific. The par 4 1st,  4th , 5th  10th  and 14th  were all really good. Drawback—at least for me, I hit too many of the same club (5 irons) into greens on this course.  Also,  I would have suspected a couple more lay of the land greensites on this LowCountry property vs. greensites that were elevated. The 8th greensite was an exception, and rightly so as a perched green there would have been very incongruous with the creek/marsh background of this downhill hole.   I suppose this was a Raynor predilection but in some cases it seemed unnecessary.
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Rob Rigg

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Re: Updated Yeamans Hall profile posted under Courses by Country
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2018, 08:06:29 PM »
Just wow - What a golf course!!!
Congrats to Ran on the soul stirring write up and to Jim, Brooks and everyone who have been involved in restoring this gem to its current form of pure awesomness.

One day.