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Steve_ Shaffer

Island Fairways
« on: June 11, 2018, 11:42:34 PM »
The 6th hole at Stone Harbor GC in New Jersey, a 400y par4 designed by Desmond Muirhead, is one example of an " island fairway." Are there others?







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Peter Flory

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 12:47:31 AM »
Seven Bridges in Chicagoland has a hole that is all island, except for the tee.  It used to be the first hole, but they switched the nines, I believe because it was too difficult for a start. 


Par 5.  I played in a tournament a while ago there and as the first hole, it really gave people trouble. 


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Evan_Green

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 12:54:37 AM »
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Ally Mcintosh

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 01:32:05 AM »
Here’s an exercise: Discuss the merits / demerits of the above holes versus the 4th at Lido...
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Steve_ Shaffer

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 01:40:06 AM »
The 4th @ Lido:


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Matthew Rose

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 01:40:58 AM »
I was gonna say #7 at Valhalla but technically it isn't a complete island.
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Anthony_Nysse

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2018, 05:41:25 AM »
#6 on King's North at Myrtle Beach National. Named "The Gambler." 220yd carry on a Par 5
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Stewart Abramson

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 06:20:48 AM »
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Alan Ritchie

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 06:41:00 AM »
the 17th at the lakes in sydney is as close as I have played to an island fairway ( though it might be more of a jutting out peninsula). It certainly feels pretty intimidating off the tee
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Thomas Dai

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2018, 07:50:12 AM »
Quote from: Peter Flory on June 12, 2018, 12:47:31 AM





Not just an island.......there seems to be a band of rough across the fairway as well.
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Matt Frey, PGA

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2018, 10:36:29 AM »
Baywood Greens in Delaware has one: No. 14, a longish par-4 (425, 409, 385, 325, 227).



Here's a rendered flyover: https://youtu.be/eMvnFSosZ5c

And the Bausch Collection: http://www.myphillygolf.com/uploads/bausch/Baywood/pages/page_63.html

If I recall correctly, if you can successfully hit the island fairway on your tee shot, it plays much easier than if you go to the right fairway.
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Matthew Petersen

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2018, 10:49:38 AM »
Muirhead strikes again at McCormick Ranch in Scottsdale.


The Palm Course's 9th hole features an island fairway, which makes the hole play pretty short, or you can play it much longer around the water's edge with a banana fairway that doglegs from right to left around the water.


You can kind of see if it this fairway that looks back from the green:





As I wrote in an old review of the courses, the way to tell the Pine and Palm courses apart at McCormick Ranch is that one has a hole with an island fairway played to a peninsula green; the other has a hole with a peninsula fairway played to an island green.
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Buck Wolter

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2018, 10:50:46 AM »
#17 at Owatonna CC. It's a turtleback to make it even tougher but only 300 yards. Either two 150 yard shots or hit it as far as you can and drop near the green if you miss.

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MCirba

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2018, 11:36:06 AM »
#18 at The Wizard GC in Myrtle Beach.   I'd post a picture but don't have time.  ;)
Also, to Ally's comment regarding Lido.
I'll posit;
Island fairways partially visually obstructed by reeds, cattails, natural sea growth = COOL
Island fairways blockaded with railroad ties surrounded by clear, fountain-pumped waters = UNCOOL
Doesn't make sense but there you have it.
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Jerry Kluger

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2018, 03:09:49 PM »
Aberdeen CC in Boynton Beach, Fl is a Desmond Muirhead course and has a par 5, I believe it is the 4th, with an island fairway - to me, it is the worst golf hole I have ever seen.
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Edward Glidewell

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2018, 09:43:10 PM »
18th hole at Healy Point CC in Macon, GA (Gary Player design from the 70s, I think). It's a really bad hole -- we used to lay up with an iron short of the island fairway landing zone and have a 200+ yard approach on a 365 yard hole because that was a higher percentage play than trying to keep a ball on the island.
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James Brown

Re: Island Fairways
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2018, 11:00:10 PM »
18 at Kingwood in Houston is a de facto island fairway.  BTW, This is the hole in the background of the bar contest near the end of Tin Cup.
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