ID Help on Golf Hole Photo, MacKenzie Connection - NOW WITH PHOTO!

[Sean_A]

It looks to me like a colourized black and white photo.

I agree with many others...that doesn't look like a GB&I location. 

Ciao

[Tim Leahy]

Tim the ground along the coast at Sharp Park is relatively flat and was often inundated following storms. The coastal section has no landforms like the one in my photo to the best of my knowledge. You made the suggestion about the 12th, which is one of the inland holes, but I don't think its that or the 13th.

I was talking about the current 12 hole location because I only had a current layout. But I did find an article with a layout from 1932 titled "1932 sharp park hole descriptions by Jack Flemming". The description of the 3rd hole and location sounds like your picture. 14 in that layout might also fit the bill with the road behind it since that layout is an artist's rendering it might have left out details.

[Neil_Crafter]

Tim the ground along the coast at Sharp Park is relatively flat and was often inundated following storms. The coastal section has no landforms like the one in my photo to the best of my knowledge. You made the suggestion about the 12th, which is one of the inland holes, but I don't think its that or the 13th.

I was talking about the current 12 hole location because I only had a current layout. But I did find an article with a layout from 1932 titled "1932 sharp park hole descriptions by Jack Flemming". The description of the 3rd hole and location sounds like your picture. 14 in that layout might also fit the bill with the road behind it since that layout is an artist's rendering it might have left out details.

Tim
The original 3rd hole at Sharp Park played along the beach and had another green immediately behind it, the 7th, so can't be that hole. The original 14th played downhill with a creek at the right and the road behind but not down the left, so can't be that one either.

[Ally Mcintosh]

Just in case it hasn’t been mentioned, there are two roads / paths here:


One main road that appears to cut diagonally across the fairway (although appearances can be deceptive)... and one other road (or wide walking path) that runs behind the dune and travels along the back / left of the green, off picture to the right past where the bench is located and below the sign at the extreme right.

[Thomas Dai]

Bumping this thread as I'm curious to know if the hole in question has been identified?
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[Luke Eipper]

What about 9 at Pasatiempo? Before the clubhouse was built.

[Tom_Doak]

What about 9 at Pasatiempo? Before the clubhouse was built.

That's a great suggestion.  Could be it.  Pasatiempo isn't that sandy, but the soils do look white in old b/w photos.


There were actually two different ninth greens at Pasatiempo in the early years - the present one and another that was straighter up the hill.  This view would have cut out the other green even if it was extant at the time the picture was taken.  The bunkering, for the current green, is pretty much correct.


I also like the suggestion because MacKenzie didn't stick around many of this courses from the second half of his career for long enough to autograph a picture of the finished product, but he lived at Pasatiempo.

[Sven Nilsen]

Was this mystery ever solved?


Any chance its the 3rd at Pebble?

[Kalen Braley]

I'm digging the Pasa 9 guess as well.

The street is definitely in the right place and that tree'd/dune area behind the green would be long gone now for the clubhouse and/or parking lot.

P.S.  That structure with what appears to be a bell tower in the distance is long gone thou...

[Thomas Dai]

I'm still with: ...https://earth.google.com/web/@-34.90031198,-56.26387613,19.160082a,60.13836659d,35y,79.72611133h,59.99677999t,360r/data=CgRCAggBOgMKATBCAggASg0I____________ARAA - Cerra.
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[Matt Schoolfield]

Where is the fairway? The photo looks like it's taken from an unkempt area compared to the grass left of the green.

Those bunkers don't actually seem very MacKenzie to me.

[Neil_Crafter]

Matt, I believe the photo is taken from the right front of the green, with the line of play in from the left.Regardless of how the bunkers appear I cannot believe that MacKenzie would have signed a photo of a golf hole if he didn't design it.

[Matt Schoolfield]

It could theoretically be the original #6 at Sharp Park shot from behind the green. I doubt it, but the bunkers and the bench would make sense.

[MCirba]

It could theoretically be the original #6 at Sharp Park shot from behind the green. I doubt it, but the bunkers and the bench would make sense.

Matt,


I have no dog I'm walking here but having played Sharp Park a few years ago I'm really hoping it is.

[Matt Schoolfield]

It could theoretically be the original #6 at Sharp Park shot from behind the green. I doubt it, but the bunkers and the bench would make sense.

Matt,


I have no dog I'm walking here but having played Sharp Park a few years ago I'm really hoping it is.

I've looked at both:
Sharp Park #6, 1941 doesn't work: https://imgur.com/0gbZ1mr
Pasa #5, 1931 also doesn't work: https://i.imgur.com/JKYBgXf.png

[Jackson C]

I like the Green Hills guess.  There is a short par 4 on the front that is on the boundary of the property.  But I recall the green slopes left to right.


Wondering if it could be a Titirangi or RMGC hole, as both have roads bisecting the courses.

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