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Evan_Green

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Newquay GC
« on: April 06, 2018, 11:54:34 PM »
Has anyone played Colt's Newquay GC in the Cornwall area?


I came across this drone footage hole by hole (as you complete each hole's video it queues up the next):
https://youtu.be/VFnPmQMHGoo?list=PLDjnBRpzjzKqwrRrcJ_U5LbHzCCtNnMth



Looks like a fun quirky "hidden gem" type of course (par 69) with some neat features. Any thoughts from anyone who has played it?




James Reader

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 04:49:08 AM »
Coincidentally (?) I was just thinking the same having read this review posted on Top 100 Golf Courses.com.


https://www.top100golfcourses.com/golf-course/newquay


It’s never been on my radar to play when I’ve been down in Cornwall - looks like it should have been.

Paul Dolton

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2018, 10:46:17 AM »

I played there a few years ago and really enjoyed it.
It is very compact but plenty to think about .

Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2018, 02:10:42 AM »
I enjoyed it. Played with a husband and wife. The wife could out drive the both of us, and I kept trying to send her back to the blues. They were supposed to play St. Enodoc the next day, but learned she had made it into a qualifier as an alternate so were headed back to St. Andrews instead.

I thought the bunkers were dangerous and well placed to capture balls that strayed too close. Before playing, i thought the uniform slant of the property might get tedious, but didn't find it so on course. I have a complete set of pictures that I haven't gotten around to posting in 3.5 years.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2018, 01:23:11 PM »
Here's a plan of Colt's course in 1912.

« Last Edit: April 10, 2018, 01:24:50 PM by Adam Lawrence »
Adam Lawrence

Editor, Golf Course Architecture
www.golfcoursearchitecture.net

Principal, Oxford Golf Consulting
www.oxfordgolfconsulting.com

Author, 'More Enduring Than Brass: a biography of Harry Colt' (forthcoming).

Short words are best, and the old words, when short, are the best of all.

Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2018, 06:01:21 PM »

On Google Earth

NewquayRouting by Garland Bayley, on Flickr
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2018, 07:18:55 PM »
After detailing the routing and adding yardages, it appears there are three significant changes from the original that I see offhand.
#2 was shortened to allow #3 tee to be moved back to the boundary. #6 was rerouted to allow #8 to be lengthened. #16 had the green moved and the hole was shortened. Other places had new tees put in place to lengthen the holes. One thing that disappeared through the lengthening would be the putting course shown on the original routing. The lengths given are from the standard back tees.

NewquayRoutingLengths by Garland Bayley, on Flickr
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2018, 01:09:01 AM »
...
I came across this drone footage hole by hole (as you complete each hole's video it queues up the next):
https://youtu.be/VFnPmQMHGoo?list=PLDjnBRpzjzKqwrRrcJ_U5LbHzCCtNnMth
...

Thanks for the link to the video. I just got around to viewing it. Although I didn't realize it while I was there, you probably can see the ocean from all the holes on the course. I do remember getting to watch the surfers while walking from shot to shot on holes played facing the ocean.

If those bunkers look to you like you have a steep shot to get out of them, then you perceive them correctly. My first trip into a deep one was on 7 where my tee ball almost ran onto the surface of the green before making a U turn and descending into the bunker. With the wind coming from left, I visited the bunker to the right front of 14 also. One of my favorite memories was reaching 13 in two with two 3 wood strokes. As I was carrying 8 clubs, I didn't have driver, and as an old man getting the 3 wood airborne for the second with a 3 wood was also special. 10, 11, 12, 13 was my favorite stretch on the course.

"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2018, 01:10:18 AM »
Oh, and remember to get a parking pass from the clubhouse when you park there. The parking fine is much steeper than the green fee.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Mark Chaplin

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2018, 04:33:50 AM »
I see from the video they’ve changed the bunkering on 9, the front bunker used to seem like it was as tall as a house.
Cave Nil Vino

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2018, 04:40:14 AM »
That's very cool Garland -- thank you for doing that.
Adam Lawrence

Editor, Golf Course Architecture
www.golfcoursearchitecture.net

Principal, Oxford Golf Consulting
www.oxfordgolfconsulting.com

Author, 'More Enduring Than Brass: a biography of Harry Colt' (forthcoming).

Short words are best, and the old words, when short, are the best of all.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2018, 06:04:04 AM »
Thanks for highlighting. Looks interesting from the 18 hole-by-hole flyovers, in a GCA sort way. Bunkering looks deep. Seems like numerous sidehill lies. Cool semi-covering of the footpath.
Combine with just along the coast Perranporth for some Cornish eccentricity?

atb




Paul OConnor

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2018, 12:33:53 PM »
Gents,
Given a choice between playing either Newquay or West Cornwall Golf Club, what would the preference be?
Is one course clearly better than the other?  Making a trip early next month, and had planned to play West Cornwall.
Any reason to change?
Paul O'Connor


Thomas Dai

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2018, 12:42:09 PM »
Paul,
If you haven’t played it try to play Perranporth as well. Bit different. Bit special.
Atb

Paul OConnor

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2018, 12:48:00 PM »
Thomas,
Our Itinerary is:

Burnham & Berrow
Trevose
St. Enodoc
Perranporth
West Cornwall
Bude & North Cornwall
Westward Ho!
Saunton E & W

Very much looking forward to the trip.
Paul O'Connor

Thomas Dai

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2018, 01:14:56 PM »
Thomas,
Our Itinerary is:

Burnham & Berrow
Trevose
St. Enodoc
Perranporth
West Cornwall
Bude & North Cornwall
Westward Ho!
Saunton E & W

Very much looking forward to the trip.
Paul O'Connor


That’s a terrific itinerary Paul. Rather envious!
If you have the time may I suggest you also play the 9-hole Channel Course at Burnham & Berrow plus holes 1-3 plus 13-18 on the High course at St Enodoc. Both are pretty cool.
Atb

Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2018, 01:36:40 PM »
I would skip Saunton for Newquay and perhaps parts of the High Course at St. Enodoc based on Dai's and Ben Stephen's recommendations. When I played my match with Ben at St. Enodoc he was proposing reroute of Church to include the best holes from High and exclude the weakest holes from Church.
I personally prefer West Cornwall to Newquay, but I am a wild dunes junky.
I am not as high on the Channel course as Dai.

"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Thomas Dai

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2018, 02:21:39 PM »
When I played my match with Ben at St. Enodoc he was proposing reroute of Church to include the best holes from High and exclude the weakest holes from Church.
+1 Nice one Ben!
I am not as high on the Channel course as Dai.......grrrr.....! :).....Channel holes 4, 6-7-8-9 are pretty epic. 8 could be one of the best par-3’s anywhere...pure evil without either bunkers or water!
Atb


Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2018, 03:02:55 PM »
Yes Dai, 8 is a very good par 3. ;)
"+1 Nice one Ben!"
No Dai, it finished all square. ;)
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Paul OConnor

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2018, 12:24:00 PM »
Garland,

On your bad advice I went and played West Cornwall last week.  Possibly the worst routed golf course I have ever encountered in my life, golf architecture malpractice if ever there was.  Anyone playing there risks a ball in the skull on half the holes, truly a frightening place.

Newquay, on the other hand, I thought was terrific.  We teed off at nearly 5:00 pm to the absolute astonishment of the thirty people in the clubhouse bar well into their drink, and to the confused bartendress thrust into the apparently unfamiliar role of collecting our greens fees, who couldn't imagine starting a round so late.  She reverse bargained us down to 22bp each for the round, managed to find a couple scorecards, and when my pal asked for a pencil she rummaged through some drawer and produced for us two seven inch long orange pencils.  Should probably last the rest of my life for score keeping.  More on her later.

The course is short on the card, but I didn't find it played so much that way.  6,141 from the back tees, but par 69.  Highlights for me were the 4th, a 400 yard hole straight uphill, the 5th, which must have a 200 ft drop from tee to green, straight at Fistral Beach, 7-9 were all solid holes, and from 13 on in I thought the course was great.  There are ocean views from every single hole, pretty sure this is the first course I've played where I can say that.  The greens are slow, and the conditions were just a bit rough, but the hole designs were really quite good.  The bunkering was fun and relevant, some blind shots here and there, but really a fun ride.  We played 18 in about 2 hours and 20 minutes, a pace I enjoy.  If this had been a four plus hour round, maybe I'd think differently, but I'd go again in a second.  We played St. Enodoc the next day, and one of the members we met there described Newquay in the dry scornful tone only available in the UK as "a bit of a holiday course."  True enough, but I enjoyed the round. 

Anyway, two of our group who decided not to play were walking along the coastal path and found us on the 8th fairway just before the ranger came by to check that we had payed.  He wanted to be sure that our pals weren't harassing us, which of course they were.  These two were wandering around Newquay trying to find somewhere to buy a bag of ice.  Bank Holiday and all had the stores all closed up, so they head into the club bar where they encounter the same goofy bartendress, who immediately connects them with the only other Americans she had seen that day.  Great laughter ensues until they somehow convince her that finding a bag of ice is a matter of life and death, and she proceeds to fill about ten pounds into a plastic bag for them to lug home.  She still hadn't gotten over that we started playing golf at 5:00 pm when the rest of the club was happily rollicking in the bar.   

I wouldn't fly to the UK to play Newquay, but with this course literally at our doorstep, it was one that was hard to pass up.   Glad I played it.   


Garland Bayley

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Re: Newquay GC
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2018, 08:51:31 AM »
Paul,

I have to wonder what you are doing in Cornwall if you prefer to experience Newquay over West Cornwall. I can stay home and have experiences similar to Newquay, but can't find a West Cornwall facsimile.

Given your preference, I suggest Ashburnham over Pennard and Tenby; Rosses Point over Carne and Strandhill; and Santon East over Westward Ho and North Cornwall. 
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

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