Everything is going to change...

[John Kavanaugh]

for the better. Thank you SCOTUS.

[Eric Smith]

“I’ll shoot you 18 holes for ten thousand bucks!”

[Carl Rogers]

It will get very interesting when the betting will get similar to the ponies.


Will there be book on .... let's say Jordan Spieth finishing in the top 5 at Shinny?

[John Kavanaugh]

How about making prop bets on who hits or misses the 17th yesterday afternoon. From your golf cart, your couch or God forbid, while driving home. Mobile golf wagering will change how the world views the game.


My only concern are spectators changing outcomes through poor behavior. Boredom no more. Even better, courses will be made even more penal in an attempt to throw outliers in the mix. And, you can throw any rollbacks out the window. It's a win, win, won.

[Carl Rogers]

How about making prop bets on who hits or misses the 17th yesterday afternoon. From your golf cart, your couch or God forbid, while driving home. Mobile golf wagering will change how the world views the game.


My only concern are spectators changing outcomes through poor behavior. Boredom no more. Even better, courses will be made even more penal in an attempt to throw outliers in the mix. And, you can throw any rollbacks out the window. It's a win, win, won.

or the Phoenix Waste Management Hole 16.  Wild beyond words!

[John Kavanaugh]

Every golf cart will be equipped with a screen simulcasting your favorite sporting event. The old days of worrying about what to do as you wait on the group in front of you will be long gone.

You will be able to make a $1 bet guessing what your favorite player will shoot exactly for 18 holes. Get all 18 correct and win a million dollars. There goes my Sunday afternoon naps.

[SL_Solow]

John,  Is it really that much different in the UK where legalized betting o golf has been legal forever?

[John Kavanaugh]

John,  Is it really that much different in the UK where lagalized betting o golf has been legal forever?

That is interesting. Maybe the theat of bodily harm if you disrupt a shot is one reason the U.K. fan is more subdued. You scream get in the hole and cost some lug behind you a bet there will be hell to pay.

[BHoover]

As someone who couldn’t care less about gambling (other than the $20 I put in the pot for my weekend morning game), this changes nothing.

[John Kavanaugh]

Sorry Hoovie, it changes how the game is played and courses are set up if you bet or not. At the very least it will add 30 minutes to your weekend rounds as mobile technology advances.

[BHoover]

Sorry Hoovie, it changes how the game is played and courses are set up if you bet or not. At the very least it will add 30 minutes to your weekend rounds as mobile technology advances.

I’m willing to bet nothing changes. 

[John Kavanaugh]

A week or so ago was Derby Day. It doesn't take many golfers playing the ponies between shots to disrupt the entire course.


Note: I was being sarcastic when I said this was a good thing.

[Jim Nugent]

It will get very interesting when the betting will get similar to the ponies.


Will there be book on .... let's say Jordan Spieth finishing in the top 5 at Shinny?

No real water in play at Shinnie, right?  That should help Jordan's odds. 

[Ryan Hillenbrand]

Sorry Hoovie, it changes how the game is played and courses are set up if you bet or not. At the very least it will add 30 minutes to your weekend rounds as mobile technology advances.

I’m willing to bet nothing changes.

That's funny 

[Steve Lang]

   Not persuaded, though i did win $30 on the derby last weekend, after playing

[John Kavanaugh]

I'm feeling the tide change this morning and it scares the hell out of me. For the many of us who need to stay connected to work and family perhaps clubs can institute flip phone only rules on site. The Fall is the best time to play but sadly it is also the start of the NFL season. Golf will not win that battle.


I was at a club yesterday and we conservatively concluded that 30% of all golfers are degenerate gamblers. In all seriousness, how many billions of dollars of recreational monies can golf lose to gaming before more clubs close?

[Rich Goodale]

Pajo


As one who has lived most of the past 30 years in the UK, where for most of that time, sports betting has been legal and rife amongst the male half of the population, and the only two positive things I can conjure up from this new SCOTUS ruling is:


1.  Bettors with more money than sense will spend more and more time and capital in losing both of these assets, thus hurtling themselves and their genomes towards Darwin Award oblivion, and;


2.  It will give men with nothing to offer and nothing to say a default option to ignore most women who spend 90+% of their free time texting trivia to "friends" which makes both of those cohorts unlikely to mate and thus also pay homage to Darwin.


Rich

[Carl Rogers]

Crypto-currencies gone wild!


SCOTUS + BITCOIN + Global Wagering on anything that moves + Dark Money = next financial crisis???

[Edward Glidewell]

I think the majority of people in the US who you could call degenerate gamblers (i.e., the kind of people who are checking lines regularly and not people who might casually place bets here and there) already gambled to their heart's content via illegal bookies or off-shore Internet sites. I know several people who gamble on sports regularly (I am not one of them) with no problem despite the federal ban.


This doesn't seem likely to change much of anything for the vast majority of people (will hurt those illegal bookies, though!).

[John Kavanaugh]

Not that long ago it was rare to hear music coming from a nearby group. Annoying but not something that slowed down the game. Soon we will hear and see football games being watched. The visual nature of sporting events will slow the game down.


I got a little sick this morning thinking about how I need to get rid of my smart phone before it either ends or destroys my life as I know it. The one saving grace that may save me personally is my fears of privacy issues. I doubt any self respecting gambler wants the government to have a record of their betting history. We are just a few short years from A.I. knowing how to explore our deepest fears, wants and needs. Wait for it...comps sent to your phone based on your betting history fulfilling every vice you enjoy or googled.

[Ryan Hillenbrand]

Pajo


As one who has lived most of the past 30 years in the UK, where for most of that time, sports betting has been legal and rife amongst the male half of the population, and the only two positive things I can conjure up from this new SCOTUS ruling is:


1.  Bettors with more money than sense will spend more and more time and capital in losing both of these assets, thus hurtling themselves and their genomes towards Darwin Award oblivion, and;


2.  It will give men with nothing to offer and nothing to say a default option to ignore most women who spend 90+% of their free time texting trivia to "friends" which makes both of those cohorts unlikely to mate and thus also pay homage to Darwin.


Rich

Rich - I echo this comment as it relates to riverboat gambling. When the first few debuted here it was supposed to spell the end of Las Vegas. Vegas is bigger than ever and now we have at least 7 casinos here in St. Louis now (and not floating on the river as originally legislated). Just more people pissing their money away in the chase for a few moments of distraction and happiness

[Kalen Braley]

I didn't want to start another OT thread.


Even some nasty looking Volcanic activity could deter these guys.   


http://www.businessinsider.com/kilauea-volcano-golf-photos-hawaii-2018-5

[Tony_Muldoon]

I was at a club yesterday and we conservatively concluded that 30% of all golfers are degenerate gamblers. In all seriousness, how many billions of dollars of recreational monies can golf lose to gaming before more clubs close?

It is a grave mistake to assume that the rest of the world is like you.


In GB&I you are lucky if you can get 1 golfer in 10 to put money down for a Pound,Pound,Pound. (i.e. a low stakes Nassau)


I dont think the sky will fall over this.


Play on.

[Kalen Braley]

I won a bet over the weekend.


The over/under on how often Queen Elizabeth would give the skunk eye to Megan Markle...

[John Kavanaugh]

I was at a club yesterday and we conservatively concluded that 30% of all golfers are degenerate gamblers. In all seriousness, how many billions of dollars of recreational monies can golf lose to gaming before more clubs close?

It is a grave mistake to assume that the rest of the world is like you.


In GB&I you are lucky if you can get 1 golfer in 10 to put money down for a Pound,Pound,Pound. (i.e. a low stakes Nassau)


I dont think the sky will fall over this.


Play on.

Tony,


But that is the thing. I don't sports bet. Though I am weak and in that it is not a stretch to think the rest of the world is like me. Once you put temptation in your pocket the die is cast.


This weekend I was in a Walmart parking lot listening to the Preakness. There is only one thing worse than sitting in a Walmart parking lot listening to a horse race where you don't have a bet placed....I don't want to be that guy.


ie: The guy sitting in a Walmart parking lot with his windows rolled up screaming for his horse to finish strong.