Copper Canyon GC ( Schmidt-Curley) in Buckeye, AZ expands...

[Steve_ Shaffer]

to 27 holes. Will open 9 new holes later this year. Course is located in a Del Webb "active adult" community in the Far West Valley in the Phoenix area:


  http://news.schmidt-curley.com/Newsletter/Volume14/?page=16

[Matthew Petersen]

to 27 holes. Will open 9 new holes later this year. Course is located in a Del Webb "active adult" community in the Far West Valley in the Phoenix area:


  http://news.schmidt-curley.com/Newsletter/Volume14/?page=16

I'd heard they were building over on the south side of the road from a couple people who live way out there.


That's nice land on that side of Bell. Interesting re-numbering of the current course. The current front nine looks like it becomes the alt-nine, which is just as well, i suppose as it's the less interesting nine currently. Copper Canyon is quite good for retirement community golf and ho hum at best by any other standard.


The addition of the new 17th hole on the north side helps to eliminate some of the awkwardness of the holes stuck on that north plot of land, but you've still got a long drive from what will now be 13 to 14 and 14-16 are just not very good holes, as I recall.

[Jeff Schley]

Great .... !  My parents winter in Sun City West so maybe get out there this winter on a thanksgiving holiday visit.

[Matthew Petersen]

Great .... !  My parents winter in Sun City West so maybe get out there this winter on a thanksgiving holiday visit.

Jeff,


It's a lot better than anything at Sun City West proper. It's better than Corte Bella and the courses at Sun City Grand, but not by a huge margin.


It's not as good as Vistancia or Verrado or Estrella. (But that's not fair, because those aren't retirement community courses.)


It's much better than anything at Pebble Creek.


But if you're visiting your parents in Sun City West, you're either going with your dad in his golf cart, in which case ... play Hillcrest, at least it's a core golf course where you're not aiming between houses all day. Or, if you're sneaking away to play somewhere else (but staying in the west valley) play somewhere better than anything attached to a Sun City community.

[astavrides]

It's not as good as Vistancia or Verrado or Estrella. (But that's not fair, because those aren't retirement community courses.)

I think Verrado is actually a 55+ community. At least part of it. Those courses are really good though, especially for AZ, and for the price. if in fact it is a retirement community, you wouldn't know it from those courses.
https://www.verrado.com/victory/

[Steve_ Shaffer]

Victory at Verrado is the " active adult" community within Verrado. All residents of the entire community can purchase an annual membership for both courses:
http://www.verradogolfclub.com/wp-content/uploads/VerradoGolfClub-MembershipInformation2017-18.pdf


Public play is permitted.


In my opinion, Falcon Dunes, the Luke AFB course, is the best of all courses in the West Valley. Access is restricted to retired and active military, retired federal employees and retired police and firemen and guests.

[Jeff Schley]

Great .... !  My parents winter in Sun City West so maybe get out there this winter on a thanksgiving holiday visit.

Jeff,


It's a lot better than anything at Sun City West proper. It's better than Corte Bella and the courses at Sun City Grand, but not by a huge margin.


It's not as good as Vistancia or Verrado or Estrella. (But that's not fair, because those aren't retirement community courses.)


It's much better than anything at Pebble Creek.


But if you're visiting your parents in Sun City West, you're either going with your dad in his golf cart, in which case ... play Hillcrest, at least it's a core golf course where you're not aiming between houses all day. Or, if you're sneaking away to play somewhere else (but staying in the west valley) play somewhere better than anything attached to a Sun City community.

I'm cracking up because my dad does have his golf cart and thinks he is in heaven being able to drive to any course he wants!  Low bar for happiness as he likes any course almost.

[Matthew Petersen]

Victory at Verrado is the " active adult" community within Verrado. All residents of the entire community can purchase an annual membership for both courses:
http://www.verradogolfclub.com/wp-content/uploads/VerradoGolfClub-MembershipInformation2017-18.pdf


Public play is permitted.


In my opinion, Falcon Dunes, the Luke AFB course, is the best of all courses in the West Valley. Access is restricted to retired and active military, retired federal employees and retired police and firemen and guests.

I like Falcon Dunes, but I wouldn't put it over wither course at Verrado or Vistancia (or Blackstone, which is private). Pretty even with Estrella, I suppose.