OT - i hate the term "Patrons"!

[Kalen Braley]

Jeff,


Fully agreed.  I was really only offering a rebuttal to the absurdity that ANGC patrons are somehow different than every other fan base at every other golf tournament in the world.


Maybe every tournament should try the season ticket holders approach and then every week can be Masters week with hushed tones and bow your head reverence... Scottsdale being the exception! 

[Mark Kiely]

All I know is this: I'll take "patrons" a million times over not one, but TWO Imagine Dragons lyric references from Faldo while the tournament is concluding on the 18th green Sunday afternoon.

[Greg Beaulieu]

All I know is this: I'll take "patrons" a million times over not one, but TWO Imagine Dragons lyric references from Faldo while the tournament is concluding on the 18th green Sunday afternoon.

Those dragons flew right over my head as I have no idea what Imagine Dragons is.

[jeffwarne]

At The Masters the worst dressed, and worst groomed people are inside the ropes.
When did playing in skinny jean pajamas become a thing?

Since at least the 18th Century:



Can we please dispense with the "THESE ARBITRARY 20 YEAR PERIODS OF GOLF HISTORY ARE TRADITION NARRRRR!" trope and let the game evolve as it has for the past 500 years?

Great pic Kyle,
The 70's weren't exactly great either...


I stood on the first tee at ANGC for several hours Friday-jaw agape at many of the outfits-noteably the grey Nike skinny jean gym trousers many of their staffers were wearing while being greeted and announced by the Green Coated men of Augusta.


There are some things grownups do when at a special place or occasion-and many were appropriately and respectfully attired for such an occasion, while also honoring a sense of indivisual fashion. (Poulter and a few others looked particularly dapper)


RE:evolution
I find it ironic that as mankind evolves generally for the better, that golfers should accept dumbing down to the lowest common denominator.
I find it quite refreshing that as Augusta evolves generally for the better, that they do stringently resist dumbing themselves and their Patrons down to that same lower common denominator.

[Pat Alpaugh]

Completely in agreement, Mr. Cirba.  Hate the term.  I read that Dan Jenkins refused to use it.  Didn't seem to hurt him.

[John Kavanaugh]

Did any guests go on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and not show the proper respect that was unspoken yet deserved? And yes I have been to the Sistine Chapel. and despite the fact that God's ass is on full display, for the first recorded time in history, decorum ruled the day. Not as much as I would have liked, but enough just the same.

[Terry Lavin]

I don’t like the term, either. But I loved being a patron. I even wrote an article in Golfweek about my experience maybe a dozen years ago.

[Kalen Braley]

Jeff,


I'll have to disagree on that one.


There are some of us who still espouse that what we do, what we stand for, and the content of character is far more important than what we wear or how our hair is cut.


But i'm not surprised a place like The Masters put so much focus on outward appearances...

[jeffwarne]

Jeff,


I'll have to disagree on that one.


There are some of us who still espouse that what we do, what we stand for, and the content of character is far more important than what we wear or how our hair is cut.


But i'm not surprised a place like The Masters put so much focus on outward appearances...

Kalen,
Those were my words-not the words of "The Masters"


In this case you are disagreeing with me-not them, perectly fine.


I agree 100% with your statement about "what we stand for, and the content of our character being far more important than what we wear or how our hair is cut."


But I wouldn't show up at your daughter's wedding in wrinkled pajama pants, regardless of how much my clothing company was paying me to promote them, and I would not show up with two days of inconsistent scruffy growth on my face.
Because while you still wouldn't know for sure what I stood for or my character, you'd at least know I had made the choice, and taken the time- to respect the occasion outwardly.

[Kyle Harris]

The best and most friendly service-person I've ever seen or met has four neck tattoos and several facial piercings.

[Kalen Braley]

Jeff,


Jesus allegedly wandered around in a dirty robe and sandals with scruffy beard and long hair....there's no doubt he would certainly be banned from the hallowed grounds of Augusta.


And I can't think of a more revered/respected/worshiped person in America! 

[Garland Bayley]

Jeff,


Jesus allegedly wandered around in a dirty robe and sandals with scruffy beard and long hair....there's no doubt he would certainly be banned from the hallowed grounds of Augusta.


And I can't think of a more revered/respected/worshiped person in America! 

Undoubtedly, an eye witness report.

[jeffwarne]

The best and most friendly service-person I've ever seen or met has four neck tattoos and several facial piercings.

None of which I would expect them to remove to play in The Masters or attend Kalen's big event.


However if they showed up in skinny jeans I might draw the line
says the only guy left with pleated pants


and Kalen, There's no dress code for Patrons at ANGC-Jesus would be just fine.  From your description, he'd be better dressed and groomed than many of the players...though his 380 yard drives wouldn't stand out anymore.

[Kalen Braley]

The best and most friendly service-person I've ever seen or met has four neck tattoos and several facial piercings.

None of which I would expect them to remove to play in The Masters or attend Kalen's big event.


However if they showed up in skinny jeans I might draw the line
says the only guy left with pleated pants


and Kalen, There's no dress code for Patrons at ANGC-Jesus would be just fine.  From your description, he'd be better dressed and groomed than many of the players...though his 380 yard drives wouldn't stand out anymore.

Jeff, Funny stuff!!     


Him and the Dalai Lama would be quite the match.  Jesus wouldn't even need the bridge on 12 and I'm pretty sure they both would have avoided the trees on 18!

[jeffwarne]

The best and most friendly service-person I've ever seen or met has four neck tattoos and several facial piercings.

None of which I would expect them to remove to play in The Masters or attend Kalen's big event.


However if they showed up in skinny jeans I might draw the line
says the only guy left with pleated pants


and Kalen, There's no dress code for Patrons at ANGC-Jesus would be just fine.  From your description, he'd be better dressed and groomed than many of the players...though his 380 yard drives wouldn't stand out anymore.

Jeff, Funny stuff!!     


Him and the Dalai Lama would be quite the match.  Jesus wouldn't even need the bridge on 12 and I'm pretty sure they both would have avoided the trees on 18!

Kalen,
They wouldn't get to 18.
The Dalai Lama would grant Jesus Total Conciousness on 16 after he skipped himself across the water and led 3 and 2.
[size=78%]Jesus would then perform another miracle and the water in the 19th would be changed to wine and consumed until all were conviced the Dalai Lama had eeked out a 1 up win. [/size]

After which, they would have collaborated to perform another miracle and fix the GCA font!

[MCirba]

By the way, I should mention that I was a "patron" during a 2005 Practice Round where I watched Tiger Woods go Eagle/Eagle on 8 and 9 and then walk into the clubhouse, evidently having perfected his game at the time.
 
The whole tournament was a class act, so I'm not a Masters hater by a long shot, although I'd love to see less trees, more brown, and less need to elongate the course year after year.   

But I wasn't there to "patronize" the tournament, the club, the players or anything else.

I was there to view the magical golf course.

[Peter Pallotta]

Jeff, Kalen - I think you're on to something. So many resonances:


The cleek shall inherit the earth (or at least its modern day equivalent, the 3 hybrid)
Blessed are the par-makers (in most years, good enough to make the cut)
Consider the past-champions in the field, they toil not (and so rarely stumble through Amen Corner) 


See, there's always something to learn from the Masters...

[mike_beene]

There was an old joke in there somewhere: That's Jesus over there walking across the pond but he tried to hit 2 iron; who does he think he is?Arnold Palmer?

[Rich Goodale]

If there is a movie to be made based on Christ the Golfer jokes, Tommy Fleetwood would be ideal for the starring role.

[mike_beene]

Patrick Reed has Judas pretty much locked down.

[Cal Seifert]

Id rather have patrons then whatever the fans at the WM are.

[Tim Leahy]

Id rather have patrons then whatever the fans at the WM are.
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Drunk?
I will bet the beer is cheaper at the Masters.

[Jeff Schley]

If there is a movie to be made based on Christ the Golfer jokes, Tommy Fleetwood would be ideal for the starring role.

Indeed, I was thinking the same thing, especially after it just being Easter.

[William_G]

By the way, I should mention that I was a "patron" during a 2005 Practice Round where I watched Tiger Woods go Eagle/Eagle on 8 and 9 and then walk into the clubhouse, evidently having perfected his game at the time.
 
The whole tournament was a class act, so I'm not a Masters hater by a long shot, although I'd love to see less trees, more brown, and less need to elongate the course year after year.   

But I wasn't there to "patronize" the tournament, the club, the players or anything else.

I was there to view the magical golf course.

clearly you were there to take something for yourself

whereas that is not what makes attending the Masters special

being a patron of something may not appropriate for some folks

creating something that is singularly unique is what the members of ANGC have achieved like it or not

cheers

[MCirba]

clearly you were there to take something for yourself

whereas that is not what makes attending the Masters special

being a patron of something may not appropriate for some folks

creating something that is singularly unique is what the members of ANGC have achieved like it or not

cheers

William,

Yes, everyone else is there as a shared personal sacrifice to the greater glory.   Ask not what The Masters can do for you, but what you can do for The Masters!   

Sure.