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Reunderstanding Ross
Sven Nilsen:
1911
Country Club of Havana (Havana, Cuba) - 18 Holes, New in 1911, NLE
The 1930 Ross Booklet notes 18 Holes.
April 22, 1911 Pinehurst Outlook -
Dec. 19, 1912 Brooklyn Times Union -
Dec. 26, 1912 Chattanooga Daily Times -
Rhode Island Country Club (West Barrington, RI) - 18 Holes, New in 1911, Still in Existence
The 1930 Ross Booklet notes 18 Holes.
A Feb. 16, 1913 Wilmington Morning Star article which will be included later notes Ross discussing his work here. The club acquired its land in 1912, so it is likely that Ross' work started around the same time.
May 1913 American Golfer -
Agawam Hunt (Rumford, RI) - 18 Holes, Remodel in 1911, Still in Existence
The 1930 Ross Booklet notes 18 Holes Remodelled.
In 1911, Agawam Hunt was playing golf on its original 9 hole Willie Park design laid out in 1895. The club would move to a new site in 1917 when it took over the lease of Metacomet's 9 hole course. It was at that time that Ross was brought in to revamp the course and expand it to 18 holes. The following November 1920 Providence Magazine article was forwarded to me by Chris Buie, and lays out the entire story.
Bret Lawrence:
Sven,
I am enjoying this thread, great work.
Regarding Dedham NLE?. I believe there are still 4 holes left from the original Ross routing. The 1st, 4th, 5th and 16th holes in the current course appear to follow the Ross routing.
Ross' original 1st and 9th holes were removed when the club moved their club house. Ross' original 2nd, 3rd and 4th holes are today's 4th, 5th and 16th holes, respectively (still in existence). His original 5th and 6th holes were combined and slightly rerouted to make a new hole. The original 7th hole is today's 1st hole (still exists) and the original 8th green was removed and rebuilt by Cornish in a different location. The body of the 8th hole still exists, but the approach is from a different angle and to this newer green. The original 8th is today's 2nd hole.
Here is a photo of today's 4th hole:
The club hired Brian Silva to do a significant renovation this past Fall. Brian's plans were to gear the holes more towards a Raynor look than a Ross look, so I don't know how much Ross will be left after the renovation.
Bret
Bill Crane:
--- Quote from: Tim Martin on January 31, 2018, 01:25:42 PM ---Sven-I know Raynor gets the credit now for Essex Fells and remember reading that some felt Banks might have actually been the lead. Was it originally a Ross?
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Perhaps you are thinking of Essex County ( and Francis Byrne public course next door, formerly an asset of Essex Co.). Essex Co, NJ is a fine under-rated Raynor.
It is only 3.2 miles from Essex Fells, and there are other courses nearby, too, including Crestmont, and Montclair CC. Probably twenty other courses within 12 miles in Essex, Union and Morris Counties.
Being a Crane from NJ I should know this stuff !
Bill Crane:
Guess I stand corrected, there is a mention on Raynor on Essex FELLS CC website.
Not previously aware of that.
Tim Martin:
--- Quote from: Bill Crane on February 01, 2018, 01:29:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tim Martin on January 31, 2018, 01:25:42 PM ---Sven-I know Raynor gets the credit now for Essex Fells and remember reading that some felt Banks might have actually been the lead. Was it originally a Ross?
--- End quote ---
Perhaps you are thinking of Essex County ( and Francis Byrne public course next door, formerly an asset of Essex Co.). Essex Co, NJ is a fine under-rated Raynor.
It is only 3.2 miles from Essex Fells, and there are other courses nearby, too, including Crestmont, and Montclair CC. Probably twenty other courses within 12 miles in Essex, Union and Morris Counties.
Being a Crane from NJ I should know this stuff !
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I wasn't thinking of Essex County and Francis Bryne is a Banks course and not a Raynor. What do Crestmont and Montclair have to do with Essex Fells or other courses in neighboring counties? Oh and thanks for the geography lesson. ;)
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