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Rich Goodale

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2017, 12:41:10 PM »
Don


In case you have missed my recent e-mails to you, I must remove myself from the roster of players, alas.


Thanks for the opportunity, and good luck for a great day on the 29th.


Rich
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Kalen Braley

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2017, 02:29:14 PM »
8)  dodgers, big faves??  must be a left coast thing...


saturday at the Woodlands, making tee time late morning

They are the favorites, just not as big as I had thought.  ;) 


P.S.  I think the Astros mystique took a bit of a hit in the LCS against a young, over-achieving Yankee team.  They will have no such luxury against a Dodger team that outscored its opponents by 30 runs in just 8 playoff games


I think the Dodgers bull pen mystique took a bit of a hit in game 2 against a young, over-acheiving Astros team!  Lot of pitches thrown by the 6-out guy! 


Sunday will be necessary, for Astros to clinch the ring... Game 3 shall be interesting, after what looks to be beautiful golf day at Wolf Point!


thank you Don!


Steve,


Ha ha, well said!  I was very surprised to see the bullpen take a hit not once, or even twice, but three times...in one game nonetheless.


P.S.  I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm a lifelong A's fan....but I know enough Dodger fans, it'd be nice to tease em a bit if the Astros can pull it off  ;D

Ronald Montesano

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2017, 09:11:46 PM »
Good luck tomorrow on Golf Day. I just came back on the DG after a hiatus, wouldn't have been able to make it, but envy all those who will be able to play this master work. Generous offer from a generous guy.
Coming in 2025
~Robert Moses Pitch 'n Putt
~~Sag Harbor
~~~Chenango Valley
~~~~Sleepy Hollow
~~~~~Montauk Downs
~~~~~~Sunken Meadow
~~~~~~~Some other, posh joints ;)

David Wuthrich

Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2017, 06:46:35 PM »

Don and Mike,


Thanks again for an awesome day of golf at a very special place!


I'm not sure which one of you ordered the weather for today, but well done!!!

Steve Lang

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2017, 08:10:07 PM »
 8) WOW

THANKS TO DI & SUE FOR HOSTING and DON FOR ORGANIZING and MIKE FOR OFFICIATING AT FIRST TEE AND ON COURSE,,,, SHANKS AND BANKS INDEED, AS DEB's AIRSHOW WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE, ESPECIALLY THE SMOKING MOONSHOT

great seeing all the GCA'ers

can't wait to see Mike's next effort... in Cleveland, TX
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Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

Ron Coker

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2017, 09:12:18 PM »
Don & Mike, what an amazing day.  Thank you for your hospitality and hard work. 

Mike Hendren

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2017, 01:11:18 PM »
For me, Wolf Point renders much of today's golf architecture laughable, including many courses I hold in high esteem.  Perhaps this isn't the 2nd Golden Age at all - maybe it's just the Silly Season.

Bogey
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

BHoover

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2017, 01:33:18 PM »
For me, Wolf Point renders much of today's golf architecture laughable, including many courses I hold in high esteem.  Perhaps this isn't the 2nd Golden Age at all - maybe it's just the Silly Season.

Bogey


How so?

Bruce Wellmon

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2017, 01:55:11 PM »
Wolf Point is the true definition of firm and fast.
It may well be the best example of links golf that I have played in the US.

Jason Topp

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2017, 02:51:39 PM »
An extra treat from our day!


October 2017 005 by Jason Topp, on Flickr




Mike Hendren

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2017, 04:25:01 PM »
Brian, Wolf Point has me thinking differently.  For example, I have long defended the current iteration of Augusta National Golf Club, particularly compared to the historical black and white aerial photographs devoid of trees and reflecting extreme width.  I was wrong.  Wolf Point has much in common with Dr. Mackenzie's original:  extreme to ridiculous width, an expansive landscape with vista's rarely interrupted by trees and most importantly, large and heavily sloped greens that must be solved to achieve par, much less birdie.   In other words, a vast playing field populated by fascinating green complexes.  Could not the same thing be said of The Old Course?

I might be very wrong here, but I can't help but thinking that at its essence golf is a pasture game -  but today's focus is on each hole, not the course.  This leaves the architecture ripe for theatrics, not to mention replication or imitation, with the sum of the parts taking precedent.  No wonder Zac Blair wants to build the next National Golf Links of America or Pine Valley or a course replete with templates.  The chuch pews at Oakmont are reknowned and quite cool, but when replicated they look absolutely silly.  Maybe the originals are too, yet we are quick to worship there. 

After playing Wolf Point, I can't help but wonder if I've been duped. 

Mike




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Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Tom Bacsanyi

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2017, 12:44:53 AM »
Sounds amazing.  Was there ever much play in the winter at Wolf Point?  Any overseeding or was everything just left dormant?
Don't play too much golf. Two rounds a day are plenty.

--Harry Vardon

Kyle Casella

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2017, 09:02:06 AM »
I might be very wrong here, but I can't help but thinking that at its essence golf is a pasture game -  but today's focus is on each hole, not the course.


I think that's spot on...and exactly why so many people are enamored with the Sheep Ranch as well.

JLahrman

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2017, 10:38:05 AM »

I might be very wrong here, but I can't help but thinking that at its essence golf is a pasture game -  but today's focus is on each hole, not the course.  This leaves the architecture ripe for theatrics, not to mention replication or imitation, with the sum of the parts taking precedent.


Wolf Point definitely stretches your imagination. With very little effort to control the places that your golf ball can travel to (I'm great for illustrating this), there is very little definition to a "hole" apart from wherever you decide to tee your ball, and the location of the hole. Everything else is fair game.

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2017, 12:31:27 PM »
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2017, 03:14:01 PM »
GCA < diverse, based on those photos.
Coming in 2025
~Robert Moses Pitch 'n Putt
~~Sag Harbor
~~~Chenango Valley
~~~~Sleepy Hollow
~~~~~Montauk Downs
~~~~~~Sunken Meadow
~~~~~~~Some other, posh joints ;)

Stewart Abramson

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2017, 10:25:44 PM »
Have to have one of Mike.





Steve Lang

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2017, 11:43:26 PM »

I might be very wrong here, but I can't help but thinking that at its essence golf is a pasture game -  but today's focus is on each hole, not the course.  This leaves the architecture ripe for theatrics, not to mention replication or imitation, with the sum of the parts taking precedent.


Wolf Point definitely stretches your imagination. With very little effort to control the places that your golf ball can travel to (I'm great for illustrating this), there is very little definition to a "hole" apart from wherever you decide to tee your ball, and the location of the hole. Everything else is fair game.


I thought there was much more definition on the back due to the lake, hills, and creek synoptics than the front (except 4, 5, & 6) and once you've gotten by the initial play there's certainly more than enough to think about... a superb match play venue, just look at the score card, hole #, handicap and open spaces and Al's words!
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Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

JLahrman

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2017, 09:14:15 AM »

I thought there was much more definition on the back due to the lake, hills, and creek synoptics than the front (except 4, 5, & 6) and once you've gotten by the initial play there's certainly more than enough to think about... a superb match play venue, just look at the score card, hole #, handicap and open spaces and Al's words!


That's true, 16 and 17 have more definition especially, and are about as "tight" as Wolf Point gets.


Hard to think of my favorite hole at Wolf Point because the concept of a hole is so open there, but I love playing up 11 and being able to pull it way the hell over on #12 if you want.

Jason Topp

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2017, 10:57:52 AM »
The second time around, I found myself aiming for very precise targets off the tee despite the width - 1.  Left front corner of green; 2 - between bunkers on right; 3 - decided to hit it right; 4 - knew I wanted to be right, 5 - hit it right to try and shorten as much as possible; 6 - aimed for tree on right edge of green because I knew left was death . . . etc. 


Wide courses are no longer rare.  Wide courses that reward proper placement of your tee shot are. 

George Pazin

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2017, 12:07:04 PM »
I might be very wrong here, but I can't help but thinking that at its essence golf is a pasture game -  but today's focus is on each hole, not the course.


Love this thought.


Nice post, Jason Topp.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Connor Dougherty

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2017, 12:21:09 PM »
Don, Mike, and Di,


Thank you all so much for having us. It was an awesome day with just enough wind to make you think a little bit and much more comfortable weather than we've had the past few days in Dallas.


As for the golf course, it's hard to equate how mystical the feeling is of playing such a great track in someone's backyard. There's so many teeing options that it's easy to have the hole play different ways over the course of the day. In the morning, the opening tee shot was a drivable par 4 for me played over the left bunker with the right hazards in play, risking a pull into the pond by taking that line, but in the afternoon, we moved 25-30 yards back, and the hole suddenly turned into the bottle. Getting past the front left bunker wasn't an option, it served as the holes greatest defense, and I was left with a 65 yard pitch to a green tilted away from me. It's one of many examples of this.


The generous width of holes like the 2nd, 5th, 9th, 13th, and 14th does much of the same, and the split fairway on 18 can be played enough ways to keep one interested at all times (although playing 18 from further back removes much of the desire of playing right if you can hit it longer).


I also loved the use of the creeks throughout the course, even if my balls ended up in a few of them (that 6th hole killed me!) as they rarely were met with another hazard, seemingly making them an even more dominant feature since nothing distracted from their presence.

All of the greens are wonderful, but it's fitting that I think the best complex, the joint green at the 8th and 18th, is right outside the house. I couldn't think of a better green to practice on in the evenings. You can hit just about every short game shot you can imagine in that one spot.

I'll be curious to see what happens with the golf course, but I do know that I dearly hope the course remains, it'd be such a heartbreaking loss for the game of golf to lose such a great track.


I'll post photos soon when I get the chance.
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Michael George

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Re: "Golf Day" at Wolf Point Oct 29th
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2017, 11:19:50 AM »

Let's hope that Wolf Point finds a great new owner. 

http://www.dullnigranches.com/properties/475-acres-wolf-point-ranch/



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