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astavrides

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OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« on: September 09, 2017, 06:37:55 PM »
I was about to go off the first tee as a single behind about 10 foursomes, and I was told there was no one on the tee sheet behind me. So I decided to play one ball from the blue tees and one ball from black tees (tips). I did that for 5 holes, then a single caught up with me and I played from just the blue tees for the rest of the front 9.


The single left after 9, so I went back to playing 2 balls on the two sets of tees on #10, a par 3. I hit from the blue tees, then I hit from the black tees and it went in the hole. I made a par 3 with my blue tee ball. A twosome then caught me, so I went back to playing one ball for the last 8 holes of the back nine. Naturally, I played the rest of the 9 from the black tees. I played the entire back 9 with the twosome and posted a 9 hole score for the back 9.


Did I make a hole-in-one? Was it legal (USGA rules) to post that back 9 score? If so, what would I take on hole #10 other than a 1?

ward peyronnin

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2017, 06:41:30 PM »
Did anyone witness the ball hole out in one? If not it was not official .
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Joe Hancock

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2017, 06:43:23 PM »
Did anyone witness the ball hole out in one? If not it was not official .


What if he had made a two on the hole, without any witness? Does that count?
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2017, 06:50:15 PM »
No. It's called a Huckaby. Sometimes you just get a good story.

astavrides

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2017, 06:51:19 PM »
Did anyone witness the ball hole out in one? If not it was not official .


No. In fact, I didn't even witness it. This was at #10 at Gamble Sands. The ball reached the top of the hill in front of a bunker. I turned away since I thought it had come to rest. When I looked back, the ball was no longer at the top of the hill, and I was 99% sure it had gone in the hole. (100% sure after I found it in the hole). There was no outside agency anywhere nearby that could have moved it into the hole.
Well, I guess it depends on your definition of 'witness'. There are uphill par 3s where you don't see the ball land or go into the hole.



astavrides

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2017, 06:53:08 PM »
Ah, damn, just found this:
https://www.usga.org/RulesFAQ/rules_answer.asp?FAQidx=148&Rule=100


b) says it doesn't count since I played 2 balls.


So probably I shouldn't have posted the score either. Oh well.


Matt MacIver

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2017, 07:03:25 PM »
It counts and since you posted it here you owe 1500 drinks.  And BTW - CONGRATS!

John Kavanaugh

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2017, 07:54:15 PM »
Since every course now is in love with building par 3 short courses can we make it clear that getting the ball in the hole in one stroke is not a hole in one. Please, keep those and your TopGolf shots to yourself. 

Kyle Harris

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2017, 07:54:57 PM »
It counts and since you posted it here you owe 1500 drinks.  And BTW - CONGRATS!

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Carl Johnson

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2017, 08:01:42 PM »
Who really cares?  Except you.  If you knocked in it in one shot, then it's up to you to decide whether you made a "hole in one."  If you're happy, then I'm happy.  Wait, it's "not official."  How much money are you losing on that?  Do you care about money in golf?  I say "great shot" and wish I'd done it.

Tony_Muldoon

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2017, 03:20:56 PM »
Congratulations.
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cary lichtenstein

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2017, 05:14:23 PM »
Who really cares?  Except you.  If you knocked in it in one shot, then it's up to you to decide whether you made a "hole in one."  If you're happy, then I'm happy.  Wait, it's "not official."  How much money are you losing on that?  Do you care about money in golf?  I say "great shot" and wish I'd done it.


I care...Great story, thanks for sharing
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Terry Lavin

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2017, 05:50:27 PM »
I had a hole in three at Dunes Club about five years ago. The ball went in the hole after I hit the first ball into the lumberyard. Didn't count but it still went in the hole.
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Rick Lane

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2017, 11:51:34 AM »
I had a hole in three at Dunes Club about five years ago. The ball went in the hole after I hit the first ball into the lumberyard. Didn't count but it still went in the hole.

I think that's called a "hole in 3".   I have a friend who has two of those!   ;)

Doug Wright

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2017, 01:37:17 PM »
I had a hole in three at Dunes Club about five years ago. The ball went in the hole after I hit the first ball into the lumberyard. Didn't count but it still went in the hole.

 I also had one of those last year playing with Brad Tufts at his club Tedesco, holed out after dumping first shot in a pond.
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Jason Connor

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2017, 07:37:15 PM »
I want to know why you hit from blue then went BACK and played Black!?
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Brad Tufts

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 08:24:01 PM »
I had a hole in three at Dunes Club about five years ago. The ball went in the hole after I hit the first ball into the lumberyard. Didn't count but it still went in the hole.

 I also had one of those last year playing with Brad Tufts at his club Tedesco, holed out after dumping first shot in a pond.

I got my beer!!  I had a "hole-in-three" as well at Jeffersonville, but my first shot was inadvertently hit with the wrong club (literally thought I had a 9 in my hand, but it turned out to be a PW) so I re-teed for shits.  When the second one went in, I never touched my first one short of the green and left it there to "preserve the 3."  Lots of fuzzy not-even-close to USGA standards there...

I've only had one real one, with Jeff Siskind on #7 at Chechessee in 2006 or so.
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

astavrides

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Re: OT- Did I make a hole-in-one?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 08:54:54 PM »
I want to know why you hit from blue then went BACK and played Black!?


The markers were in the same place on that hole. I was playing prov1 from blues and prov1x from blacks and i happened to pull a prov1 out first.