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Thomas Dai

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Not sure if this has been threaded before.


On the face if it having different coloured flags or indicators for front, middle and rear pin positions would appear detrimental to architectural techniques with clues as to what lies ahead being given away.


Is this really the case though?


Are there any methods (serious examples please, no jokes) where the use of such a system can be used to architectural advantage?


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Tom_Doak

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I don't mind these.  There are lots of good holes where you can't really tell the position of the flag on the green, because of circumstance, rather than the will of the designer.  Giving the golfer a vague idea of where the flag is does not ruin the challenge.

Wayne_Kozun

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Except for very deep greens 95%+ of golfers should only ever need to know yardage to the centre of the green and shouldn't be concerned where the flag is located.

Adrian_Stiff

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Except for very deep greens 95%+ of golfers should only ever need to know yardage to the centre of the green and shouldn't be concerned where the flag is located.
Yes, but they are concerned and they want to aim at the flag. We do the three diff colours on the flags it is pretty easy to swap a flag over (might happen a few times in a hole change and even easier if you have 3 spare flagsticks already flagged up). I think it can actually highlight the architecture as the golfer starts to think more about the green complex.
I would like to see a valid reason why not to do it and the only one I can think off is a daily pin position sheet, which is more expensive.
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Dan Herrmann

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The only negative I've heard is that some folks think it looks amateurish.     


I need to admit that I'm not a fan of them myself.

jeffwarne

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another simple solution that along with 150 yard poles the form over substance(clutter) police have fixated on...
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
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Jon Wiggett

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another simple solution that along with 150 yard poles the form over substance(clutter) police have fixated on...


+1


of course with many now having range finders pin position is less relevant.


Tim Martin

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another simple solution that along with 150 yard poles the form over substance(clutter) police have fixated on...


+1


of course with many now having range finders pin position is less relevant.


Don't forget about pin sheets too.

Tom Bacsanyi

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another simple solution that along with 150 yard poles the form over substance(clutter) police have fixated on...


+1


of course with many now having range finders pin position is less relevant.


I have on more than one occasion used a range finder to shoot the 150 pole to determine what I wanted to hit off the tee on unfamiliar courses.  150 out in the middle of the fwy is never a bad spot.  Especially on angled fairways and dogleggy holes.
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Sean_A

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another simple solution that along with 150 yard poles the form over substance(clutter) police have fixated on...


A simple solution to which problem? I don't care for this "solution" because too often the flag is incorrect. If done right its ok, I am not bothered either way.


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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Different coloured flags for front, middle and rear pins. Can they...
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 04:20:08 AM »
I don't mind 150 yard poles (if there are no other markers on the course). Rangefinders I dislike. Multi-coloured flags I dislike.


Give me yellow out and red back. I'll perhaps agree to blue. Not a fan of white.


Another area where you may call me a luddite.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Different coloured flags for front, middle and rear pins. Can they...
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 05:49:45 AM »
I have heard it said that 150 markers ought to be sponsored by Specsavers!
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Matt MacIver

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Re: Different coloured flags for front, middle and rear pins. Can they...
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2017, 11:24:33 AM »
I like colored flags and bird feeders/specimen bushes in the rough at 200 and 100, hate the poles in the middle of the fairway and prefer no rangefinders. I think the colored flags can help with line and distance when the course allows it (contour, F&F, wind).

Craig Sweet

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Re: Different coloured flags for front, middle and rear pins. Can they...
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2017, 08:38:47 PM »
Personally not a fan of any yardage aides...no fairway markers, no colored flags, no range finders (they slow the game down) no pin sheets...Much prefer sticking with the "spirit of the game" and making a best guess as to distance and pin location.
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