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Howard Riefs

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Another major, another round of links…
ATTENDING / WATCHING

Transportation and Parking
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/pga-championship-2017-transportation-and-parking-guide

Fan’s Guide
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/other-sports/pga-championship/article164567252.html

TV & Streaming
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/where-and-how-watch-2017-pga-championship-online-and-tv

Field
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/2017-pga-championship-field

Tee Times
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/tee-times


COURSE TOURS

PGA Championship
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/course

Golfweek
By Brad Klein
http://golfweek.com/2017/08/07/pga-championship-hole-by-hole-look-at-quail-hollow/

Associated Press
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2017/08/04/pga-championship-hole-by-hole/104298924/

Golf Channel
Tee to Green
Hole 1     http://www.golfchannel.com/video/pga-tee-green-first-quail-hollow/
Hole 2     http://www.golfchannel.com/video/pga-tee-green-no-2-quail-hollow/
Hole 4     http://www.golfchannel.com/video/pga-tee-green-fourth-quail-hollow/
Hole 16   http://www.golfchannel.com/video/pga-tee-green-no-16-quail-hollow/
Hole 18   http://www.golfchannel.com/video/pga-tee-green-no-18-quail-hollow/
Set up     http://www.golfchannel.com/video/pga-tee-green-setting-quail-hollow/


VIDEOS

"Major Renovations:" Quail Hollow's new holes
"Keys to The Par 3's:" Nos. 4, 6, 13, and 17
"Birdie Holes:" Chances to Gain Strokes
"Take Advantage of Par 5's:" Nos. 7, 10, and 15
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/videos


TOURNAMENT PREVIEWS

Golf Digest
PGA Championship 2017: The Transformation of Quail Hollow Club
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-championship-2017-the-transformation-of-quail-hollow-club

CBS Sports
A look at the changes made to Quail Hollow for the 2017 PGA Championship
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/a-look-at-the-changes-made-to-quail-hollow-for-the-2017-pga-championship/

Charlotte Observer
Here’s how to watch and keep up
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/other-sports/pga-championship/article165375682.html

Golf World
Why is this man so excited? Guess you've never met Johnny Harris
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-rosaforte-report-why-is-this-man-so-excited-guess-youve-never-met-quail-hollow-club-johnny-harris

PGA.com
Here’s What Will Be Different when the PGA Championship Comes to Charlotte
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/heres-what-will-be-different-when-pga-championship-comes-charlotte

Charlotte Observer
PGA Championship dream becomes reality for Quail Hollow’s Johnny Harris
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-fowler/article165651317.html

PGA
How to tame Quail Hollow's 'Green Mile' 
https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/how-quail-hollows-green-mile-could-determine-who-wins-pga-championship


GCA THREADS

2017

When does a course cease to be designed by the original architect?
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,64689.msg


2016

McIlroy on changes to Quail Hollow (re 2017 PGA)
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,63338.msg

Wells Fargo
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,62952.0.html


2014

Changes at Quail Hollow
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,58415.msg

Par 3s
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/other-sports/pga-championship/article164567252.html


2013

Quail Hollow greens issue 
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55539.0.html

What am I missing about Quail Hollow?
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55614.msg


2011

Quail Hollow
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,48198.msg


2010

Quail Hollow
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,44097.msg

(Looks like) 2017 PGA going to Quail Hollow – Charlotte
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,45730.0.html


2009

Thoughts on Quail Hollow?
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,39627.0.html


2008

Better three hole closing - Quail Hollow or Sawgrass?
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,34418.msg


2007

Quail Hollow: Why is it good?
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,29180.msg
« Last Edit: August 08, 2017, 12:42:23 PM by Howard Riefs »
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Jon Wiggett

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For UK golfers the BBC is covering the event live on the Red Button and BBC2

Howard Riefs

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BHoover

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Is Quail Hollow's "Green Mile" closing stretch actually a mile?

Tommy Williamsen

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Is Quail Hollow's "Green Mile" closing stretch actually a mile?
Nope. It is about 1200 yards.
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

"Deep within your soul-space is a magnificent cathedral where you are sweet beyond telling." Rumi

Ronald Montesano

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Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

BHoover

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Is Quail Hollow's "Green Mile" closing stretch actually a mile?
Nope. It is about 1200 yards.


What. The. Hell. Is nothing sacred anymore?

Kalen Braley

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My gawd,


Who would have thought TNT would set new lows for abysmal tourney coverage.  Didn't tune in first two days, but this is beyond unwatchable with the non stop ads, commericals, player interviews, fawning about the course, etc.

Jeff Evagues

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It just occurred to me that the third round is going to take about 5 1/2 hours.
Be the ball

cary lichtenstein

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My gawd,


Who would have thought TNT would set new lows for abysmal tourney coverage.  Didn't tune in first two days, but this is beyond unwatchable with the non stop ads, commericals, player interviews, fawning about the course, etc.


I agree, awful, the British Open was wonderful
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

John McCarthy

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2017, 07:49:45 PM »
Watched 15 minutes of the tournament so far, 3d round took 5 hours and 40 minutes.  After a cut. 


Disgrace.
The only way of really finding out a man's true character is to play golf with him. In no other walk of life does the cloven hoof so quickly display itself.
 PG Wodehouse

Matt MacIver

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2017, 08:14:11 PM »
Agree - a long, hot slog out there. Course is playing materially harder than a typical Wells Fargo setup, and the new holes are adding a few strokes, too. They tried to give some birdies out there at 14 and 15 but the heat was the winner.  Greens are rolling nicely but super fast.

John Kirk

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2017, 08:37:03 PM »
Why did they play in groups of three?  They must have realized it would take 5 - 5 1/2 hours.

I thought the course was difficult in a brutal way, at least for today.  Tomorrow the hole locations will probably be easier.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 08:39:35 PM by John Kirk »

John McCarthy

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2017, 08:54:32 PM »
John:.


Groups of three?  No idea.  But it is a large field.  I am arguing out of ignorance so this is pure speculation...there are a lot of par 4.5 holes and a driveable par 4.  Not good for pace of play.  I have to read the papers in the morning for their take...but this seems unwatchable and I am gonna play twilight tomorrow instead of watching. 
The only way of really finding out a man's true character is to play golf with him. In no other walk of life does the cloven hoof so quickly display itself.
 PG Wodehouse

Matthew Essig

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2017, 09:32:09 PM »
IMO, the reason play is taking so long is the lightning fast greens. Great shots aren't rewarded, and every putt takes a ton of time to read line and pace. Just cause you can get the greens rolling so fast they are on edge, doesn't mean you should.
"Good GCA should offer an interesting golfing challenge to the golfer not a difficult golfing challenge." Jon Wiggett

Matt MacIver

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2017, 08:13:37 AM »
Threesomes because of weather concerns - lightening delayed play Friday. It poured one mile away around 1:00 but just a light sprinkle at QH. They're hoping for the same today.


Agree on slow play comments - course is on the edge relative the green speeds, and rough is higher than it needs to be. Rory won here a few years back in the regular tour stop at -21...so yes it's tougher now!

Tim Martin

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2017, 08:20:56 AM »
Longtime member and tour player Webb Simpson said the setup is too hard at Quail Hollow. This coming from a guy who won a US Open.

Peter Flory

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Re: 2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow – Comprehensive Index of Links
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2017, 11:15:24 AM »
About a dozen guys under par, the leader sniffed 10 under, two rounds of 64 have been posted, and Chris Stroud has a serious chance to take it down. 

Kisner ranks 127th on tour in ave driving distance at 288 yards
Stroud ranks 152nd on tour in ave driving distance at 286 yards (just ahead of Kuchar, who almost won the Open). 

Counter-intuitively, the wickedly long and punishing course seems to have neutralized most of the bombers.  Bubba, Rory, Dustin, Brooks, Rahm, and Day have all imploded.

Matsuyama, Thomas, and Murray are all really long off the tee, but we do have a good mix.  And at Erin Hills, we also this phenomenon with Brian Harmon battling down the stretch (who is only 1 spot higher than Kisner in driving distance).   

It's hard to be captivated by a course that I don't know very well, but I do like that the leaders won't be able to just put it on cruise control on the final stretch if they are leading. 



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