Hm

[Tommy Williamsen]

[Carl Rogers]

Where is this?

You need to experience the transition from 13 green to 14th tee at Bandon Trails.

[Joe Bausch]

More pics of a place I really like:

http://myphillygolf.com/uploads/bausch/Manufacturers/index.html

[Sven Nilsen]

Probably some form of cheating.

[Ed Brzezowski]

Mannys baby, a Flynn Classic.

[David_Tepper]

I think we have had at least one thread on golf course "people movers" before. There is an elevator on the back-9 at Indian Valley (Novato, CA) that carries golfers to an elevated tee. 

Here is a thread on "conveyance systems" from last December:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,63905.0.html

[John Kavanaugh]

Probably some form of cheating.

I refused to ride the one going to 14 at Bandon Trails. My caddie hopped on properly noting that I was a douche. (thought bubble)

[Tommy Williamsen]

Great course great club. 18 can be played as either a par four or par five. The par four is at the bottom of the hill where you can take the funicular and the par five is at the top of the hill.

[Tom_Doak]

Manufacturers is a great course; actually it was my favorite find of all the courses I played with Gil Hanse that summer we built Stonewall.  The people mover was out of service at that point, but I was a lot younger, too, so the walk back up to the clubhouse was no problem.


I'm actually working on a course where I think we might need a people mover to get people DOWN a hill.  It's very steep and it goes on for a long way.


If I can find the right mechanical engineer, I think there ought to be a way to get the people mover to return to the top of the hill just from the energy absorbed in bringing people down.

[James Brown]

If I can find the right mechanical engineer, I think there ought to be a way to get the people mover to return to the top of the hill just from the energy absorbed in bringing people down.

Perpetual motion might be a stretch, even for you.

[Mark Pearce]

If I can find the right mechanical engineer, I think there ought to be a way to get the people mover to return to the top of the hill just from the energy absorbed in bringing people down.

Perpetual motion might be a stretch, even for you.

It's not, though, is it?  If people only ever go down, then there's a net loss of gravitational; potential energy through the operation of the system.  It ought, in theory, be possible to capture some of that energy.  Whether enough to return the (empty) cars, seats or whatever to the top is a different question.

[Tom_Doak]

If I can find the right mechanical engineer, I think there ought to be a way to get the people mover to return to the top of the hill just from the energy absorbed in bringing people down.

Perpetual motion might be a stretch, even for you.

It's not, though, is it?  If people only ever go down, then there's a net loss of gravitational; potential energy through the operation of the system.  It ought, in theory, be possible to capture some of that energy.  Whether enough to return the (empty) cars, seats or whatever to the top is a different question.

Yes, that's what I was thinking.  It would be similar to having an empty car at the bottom on a loop, that was being pulled by the other car going down.  The added weight of the passengers in the one car would have to be enough to overcome the weight of the car going back up ... should be a simple formula, but it's been a long time since that year at M.I.T.  [Maybe I should call one of my old roommates?]


I guess it would have to have some kind of backup motor, though, in case someone light in weight went down the hill and didn't provide enough force to pull the other car back up.

[JESII]

Maybe add some distance to the downhill run and have 3 cars with 2 always on the way down.

[Bryan Izatt]

Take a look at the Wikipedia page on funiculars. The water counterbalancing approach might do the job, although there is energy expended to get water to the top to fill the tank.  The design depends on whether there are always people going up and down at the same time and thus whether you have a two track, two car system, or a single track one car system with counterweights.


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funicular

[Bill_McBride]

I think we have had at least one thread on golf course "people movers" before. There is an elevator on the back-9 at Indian Valley (Novato, CA) that carries golfers to an elevated tee. 

Here is a thread on "conveyance systems" from last December:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,63905.0.html

That's where I learned to play!

[MCirba]

I recall starting that thread and I think we may need one before too long.

[Peter Pallotta]

Maybe add some distance to the downhill run and have 3 cars with 2 always on the way down.

Or have a staff person or two with refreshments that can always be there to ride up/down as required. Sounds strange I know, but if given a chance -- say, 30 years or so -- it becomes a 'thing' there...you know, like wire mesh lockers and the Valley of Sin. (See - TOC is *still* the answer to every question ever asked!)

[Mike Hendren]

I'm actually working on a course where I think we might need a people mover to get people DOWN a hill.  It's very steep and it goes on for a long way.

Are you going over to the dark side with a drop shot par three?

Mike