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Matt Frey, PGA

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Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« on: April 20, 2017, 11:10:41 AM »
Tom Doak has a "course work" column in The Met Golfer. In the most recent issue, Doak discusses mowing lines and how a few small changes can make a big difference for little money.

To read the full article, follow the below URL.

http://www.metgolferdigital.com/i/809847-apr-may-2017/16

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2017, 02:31:14 PM »
It's easy to forget around here, but TD is one really good writer. Very concise and readable.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Ira Fishman

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2017, 03:29:12 PM »
 I was looking at an old aerial of our course just last night.  It sure as heck is not Garden City, but it was built in the 1920s, and after reading the article, now I understand a lot more of how to evaluate the current status of the course.  Unfortunately, the trees were planted long ago and local regulations make is virtually impossible to do much about them. 

BCrosby

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2017, 04:47:42 PM »
Agreed Jeff.


No architect alive today has written so prolifically and so well about the discipline.


Bob

Rich Goodale

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2017, 07:31:17 PM »
Many thanks Matt (and Tom D)


My take is that while the D5s get all the love, the real heroes of turning a decent course into a very good one are the mowers and the chain saws.  A bad mower can change any course from interesting to ugly in a few weeks.  A good mower can do the reverse, and even make his or her course change interestingly all throughout the season.  From pretty to randy.  From seemingly hard but easy (if your use your brain) to seemingly easy but hard (if you don't use your brain).


I remember well my meeting and playing Charles River with Ed Baker in 2001.  I was a lovely course, but there were bunkers in the rough that cried out to be connected to the fairways and great greens with great contours and slopes that needed to be cut less closely that their flatter brothers and sisters.


I can't think of any of my fave courses (including Dornoch) that could not play better on a day to day basis with a little more thoughtful TLC.


As for chain saws, every super outside of links courses should carry one surreptitiously and full of petrol in the back of his vehicle.  Only use it in the heart of darkness, and no one will know.


And I miss Ed Baker, and hope he is alive and well somewhere.....


Rich
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Mike_Young

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2017, 07:47:29 PM »
Nice read....Did anyone notice the photo of Dufner on the next page in the Martha's Vineyard ad?  Very similar look ;D ;D
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

BCowan

Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2017, 09:13:05 PM »
It's easy to forget around here, but TD is one really good writer. Very concise and readable.

I agree as well. 

The last sentence or paragraph i kinda don't agree with but know the answer why and don't like it.  Why can't clubs/courses have makeshift sod farms to do Sod work quicker and it is A LOT more affordable? 

corey miller

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2017, 10:41:26 AM »

Love local tree regulations.  ???   If the club tells them they are a "danger" to players and workers do the "locals" then become liable when they injure people?

Tom_Doak

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 11:14:30 AM »
Trees are the subject of my next column!

PCCraig

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2017, 11:31:37 AM »
A terrific article.


We are undergoing a master plan under Jeff Mingay at Town & Country. One of the items we have undertaken this spring is the widening of a few fairways. One of the most dramatic is at our 15th hole. It is a par-5 and the last ~110 yards of the hole drops about 25-30 feet to the green. The green surrounds features still had the old punchbowl-esque features short left and right of the green, but covered in high rough.


Jeff brought the mowing lines way out on the entire hole, but especially on the approach. They were just scalped down last weekend but the hole is already playing more fun with the additional shortgrass.


I agree with Tom Doak's article. Restoring fairway width via scalping is an easy and cost effective way to make a golf course much more interesting!


I will try to post a picture from our superintendent below but not 100% sure it will work:


H.P.S.

corey miller

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2017, 11:46:48 AM »

Many of the same forces within a club that prefer high green rough surrounding narrow fairways will be the same people who will object to scalping as a tool because it "does not look nice"  ;)

Tom_Doak

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2017, 11:58:15 AM »

Many of the same forces within a club that prefer high green rough surrounding narrow fairways will be the same people who will object to scalping as a tool because it "does not look nice"  ;)


Undoubtedly.  And if they'd rather spend 10x more on sod, that's their own fault.

Mike_Young

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2017, 12:30:43 PM »

Love local tree regulations.  ???   If the club tells them they are a "danger" to players and workers do the "locals" then become liable when they injure people?

I've seen supts and members use the local "regulations" to keep bentgrass from converting to ultradwarf.  They say the county will not allow them to remove the trees needed for sunlight.  Total BS but it works at first glance with a committee...
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Tom_Doak

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Re: Tom Doak's "Consulting Report" in The Met Golfer
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2017, 12:33:01 PM »
Mike:


I've worked at one or two clubs where the tree ordinances were serious.


At North Shore on Long Island, the course straddles the line between two towns.  On one side of the course we could take out as many trees as we wanted; on the other, we were hardly allowed to take out anything.  It's easier to tell where the town line is now!