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Scott Weersing

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Best new course for 2018
« on: March 03, 2017, 10:11:29 AM »
It is time to look at what courses are in the sand, under construction, or growing in for our best of 2018 list.


     
1. Second course at Sand Valley, designer is D. Kidd
2. Ohoopee Match Club in Cobbtown, GA, designer is G. Hanse. https://www.instagram.com/p/BQW63McArvi/?taken-by=mosergolf
3. The South Course at Arcadia Bluffs, Arcadia, MI, designer is D. Fry. https://arcadiabluffs.com/new-course-construction-to-begin-november-1st/
     
4. Oakhurst at Greenbrier Sporting Club, designed by J. Nicklaus, A. Palmer, G. Player and Lee Trevino,
     
5. Kananskis Golf Course, designed by Gary Browning, (perhaps preview play in 2017) http://globalnews.ca/news/2862929/kananaskis-country-golf-course-restoration-back-on-course-for-2018-reopening
     
 6. Mickelson National Golf Club, designed by Phil Mickelson, https://www.mickelsonnational.com/media/
7. Sunset Valley Golf Course, a renovation by Jacobsen Golf Course Design, park district of Highland Park, http://www.pdhp.org/sunset-valley-golf-course-renovation/
8. Stoatin Brae at Gull Lake View Golf Club, designed by Renaissance team, http://www.freep.com/story/sports/golf/2016/10/20/stoatin-brae-golf-course-review/92456462/
 
9. The Ridge Course at Buffalo Ridge, designed by Coore and Crenshaw, Branson, Missouri, http://www.cooreandcrenshaw.com/current-projects.html


10. Ditto Golf Course, Arlington, Texas, designed by Colligan Golf Design, http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/arlington/article132168374.html


Let us know other courses that are underway.
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PCCraig

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 10:20:06 AM »
They are renovating Sunset Valley?? Hadn't heard that.


Seems like the obvious best new course in 2018, based on your list below, will be Kidd's course at Sand Valley.
H.P.S.

Mike_Young

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 10:27:49 AM »
Ohoopee has potential...people have never seen this area. I've seen it a couple times now and it is progressing.  It's sand and it could become a surprise area in the future. 

We have to change the titles of these list now though  "Best New" no longer means a course is good.  It just means it was one of the few built. 
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BCowan

Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2017, 10:46:20 AM »
It seems obvious that the South course at Arcadia Bluffs will be the best new in 2018.  Stoatin Brae should be on this list since only 12 holes were open last year. 

Blake Conant

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2017, 11:20:55 AM »
PCCraig, curious what makes you say Kidd's course is the obvious best new?  Can you explain?


Ben, Stoatin will open this year


To add to the list would be The Ridge Course at Buffalo Ridge by Coore Crenshaw.  I'm assuming it will open in 2018.  Saw it yesterday and it will be solid.

Scott Weersing

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2017, 11:24:34 AM »
The list was updated with The Ridge Course at Buffalo Ridge.

Carl Rogers

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2017, 11:29:29 AM »
Assume that Streamsong Black is in the running for 2017??
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2017, 11:33:40 AM »
I'm sure Matt Gillooly with the Golf Channel will be all over Sand Valley. He has Gulfstream tattooed on his ass from his latest reviews. For my money I'm going with Dana Fry up at Arcadia. It's gonna be nice to see a real course built again.

Mark Pritchett

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2017, 11:51:07 AM »
Arcadia will be the new "go to"course in Michigan.  Love that place!




Mark Provenzano

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2017, 12:17:02 PM »
The list was updated with The Ridge Course at Buffalo Ridge.

Please change it to Missouri instead of Michigan.

Ryan Hillenbrand

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 02:53:41 PM »
Glad to see dirt moving at Buffalo Ridge, excited for the first Coore & Crenshaw in Missouri to open up.

Their Fazio - Springs course is already #1 public in the state, and I'm sure they'll have the top 2 spots once this opens.

Ryan Farrow

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 04:13:38 PM »
It seems obvious that the South course at Arcadia Bluffs will be the best new in 2018.  Stoatin Brae should be on this list since only 12 holes were open last year.


Why is this obvious? Most of the courses mentioned have just started pushing dirt. Do you have some inside knowledge you would like to share?

BCowan

Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2017, 05:17:25 PM »
It seems obvious that the South course at Arcadia Bluffs will be the best new in 2018.  Stoatin Brae should be on this list since only 12 holes were open last year.


Why is this obvious? Most of the courses mentioned have just started pushing dirt. Do you have some inside knowledge you would like to share?



Seems like the obvious best new course in 2018, based on your list below, will be Kidd's course at Sand Valley

Ryan,

Why didn't you ask the same question to the above post?

Garland Bayley

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 07:21:54 PM »
Silvies Valley is supposed to open in July.
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Rees Milikin

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2017, 08:08:26 PM »
It seems obvious that the South course at Arcadia Bluffs will be the best new in 2018.  Stoatin Brae should be on this list since only 12 holes were open last year.


Why is this obvious? Most of the courses mentioned have just started pushing dirt. Do you have some inside knowledge you would like to share?



Seems like the obvious best new course in 2018, based on your list below, will be Kidd's course at Sand Valley

Ryan,

Why didn't you ask the same question to the above post?


I think Blake already did.

Scott Weersing

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2017, 10:34:46 AM »
Assume that Streamsong Black is in the running for 2017??


Yes, Streamsong Black is in the 2017 list just as Sand Valley's first course was on the 2016 list.

Tim Leahy

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2017, 06:26:27 PM »
Any new courses being built in California or Nevada?
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Joel_Stewart

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2017, 09:31:41 PM »
Any new courses being built in California or Nevada?


Fazio has a new course in Las Vegas called The Summit.  Its a clone of Madison Club, basically a frat house.  Million dollar homes, Waterfalls and the usual mounding.


A rebuilt muni will open in 2018 in Alameda.  Technically it has Rees Jones name but its really Marc Logan. Its going to look like an Australian sandbelt course. I've walked around it and its quite unique. 

Daryl David

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2017, 12:46:01 AM »
Any new courses being built in California or Nevada?


Fazio has a new course in Las Vegas called The Summit.  Its a clone of Madison Club, basically a frat house.  Million dollar homes, Waterfalls and the usual mounding.


A rebuilt muni will open in 2018 in Alameda.  Technically it has Rees Jones name but its really Marc Logan. Its going to look like an Australian sandbelt course. I've walked around it and its quite unique.


Lots start at around 2 million, so I doubt there will be any million dollar homes. Just multi million dollar ones.  ;D

Scott Weersing

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2017, 07:42:08 AM »
Any new courses being built in California or Nevada?


There are not any new courses in the works for California. There are several renovations, a redesigned golf course on an existing site, that will open in 2017.


1. South Course, Alameda, CA, Designer, Rees Jones, https://www.alamedagolf.com/club-info/course-renovations
2. Santa Ana Country Club, Santa Ana, CA, Jay Blasi, http://www.hochsteindesign.com/santa-ana-cc/
3. Rolling Hills Country Club, Rolling Hills Estates, CA, David Kidd, http://www.easyreadernews.com/139389/david-kidd-golf-course-palos-verdes-rolling-hills-country-club/

Joe Hancock

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2017, 08:06:30 AM »
Rolling Hills will be considered a new construction by any standard.
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

Blake Conant

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2017, 09:44:44 AM »
Any new courses being built in California or Nevada?


There are not any new courses in the works for California. There are several renovations, a redesigned golf course on an existing site, that will open in 2017.


1. South Course, Alameda, CA, Designer, Rees Jones, https://www.alamedagolf.com/club-info/course-renovations
2. Santa Ana Country Club, Santa Ana, CA, Jay Blasi, http://www.hochsteindesign.com/santa-ana-cc/
3. Rolling Hills Country Club, Rolling Hills Estates, CA, David Kidd, http://www.easyreadernews.com/139389/david-kidd-golf-course-palos-verdes-rolling-hills-country-club/


What an excellent read on Rolling Hills.  My only gripe would be not enough drag racing videos throughout the article.  Could've had one more.  Maybe two.   

Josh Tarble

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2017, 12:13:09 PM »
I'm very interested to see more of The Ridge.  The Missouri Ozarks do not seem like a place C&C minimalist style will work well.  The land is very hilly and the soil is perhaps the worst grass growing soil in America.  I will honestly be surprised if it's above average, even with C&C's usual standards.  I do plan on going as soon as it's open, I'm just not expecting great things.


Scott Weersing

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2017, 07:51:35 AM »
Rolling Hills will be considered a new construction by any standard.


Yes, I would agree that Rolling Hills is a new course.  We are still waiting for a new course in California that is built from the ground up with all of the infrastructure. I would expect that the Palm Springs area would be next for a brand new course.

Ryan Farrow

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Re: Best new course for 2018
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2017, 11:01:20 AM »
Assume that Streamsong Black is in the running for 2017??


Yes, Streamsong Black is in the 2017 list just as Sand Valley's first course was on the 2016 list.


Scott, the 1st course at Sand Valley does not technically open until May of this year. So it was not on any 2016 lists.

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