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Sean_A

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2017, 09:32:55 AM »
I'll leave this as an open invitiation until Mid-March and then will work on getting brackets out based on location.  I see no reason why we couldn't accommodate Mr. Doak's request to have the first round deadline be the end of May.....that would give everyone 2+ months to play their first match.  I agree it would be much easier to have the match participants agree on a date/location instead of trying to have everyone play together. 


We can also include OH, IA, MN, etc. again just as long as participants are willing to drive.  You can either add your location to this thread or PM if you do not want it disclosed publicly.  If it could work logistically it would be cool to have the championship match played at the MWM. 


Ben, you would only play CGC if you could play the Rav in the morning??  You and Brian start working on that CGC invite and I'll gladly be your 3rd.


If one of you guys has to play me maybe we can do it at Chicago Golf. 


Generally, though, what I suggested for the UK version was as follows:


One match per month -- so, first round has to be completed by May, second round by June, etc.  That would give us five rounds by the end of September, so the field would ideally be 32 players.  Divide the field geographically into halves or quarters, and randomly draw the opponents from there, so that people wouldn't have to travel far until the last couple of rounds.


My suggestion was to try to play matches roughly halfway between the participants at a neutral site -- ideally one that neither player had played before -- so the report of the match would include a report on the golf course.


Whichever player is the first listed in the matchup should provide three alternate dates [not all in the same week] when he could play.  The second listed player should nominate three potential venues [at least one of which is closer to player 1, and at least two of which player 2 has not played].  Player 1 then makes the final call on venue. 


If players cannot agree on a date within the month allotted, they should both forfeit, unless they both agree which of them should go through.


It might be more reasonable if there are no set time limit for matches...what is the rush?  The deal doesn't need to be completed by any fixed date.  If things get out of control with a match holding up the parade folks can simply drop the two chaps a friendly note and request they get on with it. So far as I know, there are no time limits for the UK knockout.


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Peter Pratt

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2017, 09:50:54 AM »
Peter again. Left out that I'm in Lansing. More than willing to drive to Wheaton, IL ;D

Matt Bielawa

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2017, 09:52:20 AM »
Sounds like fun.  I'm in too.  Detroit area
« Last Edit: February 12, 2017, 07:15:13 AM by Matt Bielawa »

BHoover

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2017, 10:13:55 AM »
Peter again. Left out that I'm in Lansing. More than willing to drive to Wheaton, IL ;D


Seems we have a foursome for CGC. Do they allow unaccompanied play?

Tim Passalacqua

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2017, 11:28:29 AM »
Interested from Columbus, Oh.

Brad Engel

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2017, 12:03:37 PM »
Interested from Cincinnati, OH.

Anthony Fowler

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2017, 03:21:49 PM »
Great idea. Thank you James for suggesting and organizing this.


I live in Chicago, and I'd love to participate.

Jimmy Cavezza

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2017, 04:11:58 PM »
Count me in!  Stevens Point, WI.

Jason Way

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2017, 06:17:45 PM »
I'm in, and willing to drive to play in a match almost anywhere in the Midwest.
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Shane Wright

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2017, 08:52:12 PM »
I'd be interested as well - Twin Cities, MN. 
« Last Edit: February 12, 2017, 09:36:57 PM by Shane Wright »

Richard Hetzel

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2017, 08:53:22 PM »
I am interested as well!
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Ryan Hillenbrand

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2017, 11:31:48 AM »
Please count me in as the representative from Missouri. I believe we're still considered Midwest in spite of our defection to the SEC. I'd be happy to line something up for a match here

Tom_Doak

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2017, 05:21:01 PM »

Seems we have a foursome for CGC. Do they allow unaccompanied play?


No, they do not.  I have been consulting there for more than ten years, but if I want to play the course, I have to induce someone to go and play with me.  I think they have the strictest guest policy of any of the clubs where we consult.

BHoover

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2017, 05:48:45 PM »

Seems we have a foursome for CGC. Do they allow unaccompanied play?


No, they do not.  I have been consulting there for more than ten years, but if I want to play the course, I have to induce someone to go and play with me.  I think they have the strictest guest policy of any of the clubs where we consult.


Sorry, I assumed it was obvious I was joking. I'm not trolling for access. I was only attempting a joke about playing CGC.

BCowan

Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2017, 05:49:41 PM »
I think Doak should square off against Jkava at Sycamore Hills in Fort Wayne in round 1. 

Doug Siebert

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2017, 05:51:48 PM »
This sounds interesting, I'm not sure how the UK knockout works but I could get away for a late morning or afternoon round 2-3 hours away. Iowa City, IA.
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Steve Green

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2017, 10:30:28 PM »
Count me in, also in Chicago.
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JReese

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2017, 11:09:12 PM »
I'm open to any ideas/suggestions, but at this point I'm thinking we'll cap the field at 32 players.....unless we can get up to 64 which very well may happen considering the amount of interest in the competition.  This way everyone will play a first round match. Or if nobody cares if they have a bye I can leave it open and randomly draw who gets the bye when it's time to make the bracket. 


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Steve Salmen

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2017, 09:25:29 AM »
I'm in subject to schedule. NW Indiana.

Jason Thurman

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2017, 09:36:04 AM »
Add one more Cincinnati resident to the list of interested parties.


I will also simply mention that I'm more interested in getting an excuse to play some fun golf on decent courses than anything else. If it's easier logistically to abandon the traditional 32 or 64 entrant bracket format in favor of making early matches easier to arrange through creatively-assigned regions or something like that, I'd be all for it. If that means a bye here and there, or that some players have to play more matches to reach the championship rounds, I for one would be fine with it.


And I'm not just saying that because Steve beat me to claiming the 32nd spot. We all know that Hoover's going to WD as soon as his wife finds out he's expressed interest in this thing - I'll just take his spot when that happens.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2017, 09:57:00 AM »
Add one more Cincinnati resident to the list of interested parties.


I will also simply mention that I'm more interested in getting an excuse to play some fun golf on decent courses than anything else. If it's easier logistically to abandon the traditional 32 or 64 entrant bracket format in favor of making early matches easier to arrange through creatively-assigned regions or something like that, I'd be all for it. If that means a bye here and there, or that some players have to play more matches to reach the championship rounds, I for one would be fine with it.


And I'm not just saying that because Steve beat me to claiming the 32nd spot. We all know that Hoover's going to WD as soon as his wife finds out he's expressed interest in this thing - I'll just take his spot when that happens.


Will you take Hoover's spot at Chicago Golf or line up your own foursome at Camargo?


If this expands to 64, please add me to the bracket.  I'm in Chicago.









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BCowan

Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2017, 10:21:36 AM »
James,

You are welcome to to have the quarter or Semi's at Summerball @ Greywalls!   8)



PS-   Mrs Hoover I believe gave permission for Summer Ball.  I think he can make this work...   

BHoover

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2017, 11:06:59 AM »
And I'm not just saying that because Steve beat me to claiming the 32nd spot. We all know that Hoover's going to WD as soon as his wife finds out he's expressed interest in this thing - I'll just take his spot when that happens.


Unfortunately, you're probably spot on...unless I can somehow explain to her that I'm going on a business trip with my golf clubs.


But if someone needs to fill a spot at CGC or Camargo, I can sneak out of the house...
« Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 11:10:26 AM by Brian Hoover »

Ken Fry

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2017, 11:33:57 AM »
Ben raises a good point.  There are other events that matches could be played at to help alleviate the need to pick some playing opportunities over others.  Summer Ball at Greywalls or the Mashie are great examples.

Ken

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Midwest USA GCA knockout - 2017
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2017, 12:02:24 PM »
If you want to make this hum find out who the raters are and disperse them evenly throughout the bracket. This will make finding a fine private course equidistant between opponents much easier. Not to mention the rater won't have to play alone. A win, win for everyone.

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