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Thomas Dai

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Re: Would the "Punchbowl" or "Himalayas" concept work at your home club?
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2016, 12:11:06 PM »
Ref mention of greenspeed above - I recall previous threads saying that the speed of the Himalayas putting surface is considerably slower than the speed of the greens on the course. Mind you with those contours......and novice players using it as well.
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Doug Siebert

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Re: Would the "Punchbowl" or "Himalayas" concept work at your home club?
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2016, 04:49:39 PM »
Pat - I think your putting green is unique in a very good way.  As a guest it is nice to show up at the shop, order a drink and hit a few putts while waiting for the group to arrive.  It is a great social spot in the evening.  I am not sure that eliminating the thing would be a good development.


I agree, the existing putting green with the patio tables immediately surrounding it was kind of a cool feature of T&C. I could see adding a putting green alongside the first tee to give you something to do while waiting to tee off, but not if removing the existing green was the price. I could totally see that being a social spot in the evening, especially if there is enough light you could have drunken putting contests after dark.
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Would the "Punchbowl" or "Himalayas" concept work at your home club?
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2016, 06:18:48 PM »
Ref mention of greenspeed above - I recall previous threads saying that the speed of the Himalayas putting surface is considerably slower than the speed of the greens on the course. Mind you with those contours......and novice players using it as well.
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Thomas,


it is quite a bit slower but that makes it all the more challenging. As you suggest, the contouring is such that it would be spoiled by increasing the speed.


Jon

Jeff Shelman

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Re: Would the "Punchbowl" or "Himalayas" concept work at your home club?
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2016, 08:55:13 AM »
My personal opinion would be that I wouldn't want my membership money going for it.

I would much rather have my dues going for maintenance of the actual golf course.

These putting courses are great at places like Bandon, Ballyneal, etc., where people are staying on site and where there isn't much to do other than play golf and talk about golf while having a drink.

But in the world of day-to-day reality where guys are rushing from the office to the first tee or running from the 18th green to Little Johnny's soccer game, I am not sure that the audience is captive enough to make it worth the investment.

Terry Lavin

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Re: Would the "Punchbowl" or "Himalayas" concept work at your home club?
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2016, 10:07:02 AM »
You guys do realize the examples described are built on on native sandy soils right?  The expense of constructing something of a similar scale to the Punchbowl or Himalayas in a location without  such soils might give pause to many.


Yes to that.


Big putting greens are expensive to maintain, too.  I'd guess you would be spending an extra $50k or $100k per year for something the size of the Punchbowl, and you can't really charge anything for it.  So it makes zero sense to build such a facility unless you anticipate it getting a lot of traffic.  High Pointe's big putting green was quickly abandoned for a combination of those reasons.


Such a facility only makes sense for a place with multiple courses and enough golfer traffic to make it worth the expense.


Thank you both for the sage advice.
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