Future BUDA venues ?

[Niall C]

Following the completion of another successful BUDA attention has inevitably turned to where should it be next. Ben posted a few suggestions on the Carne thread so to start the discussion I've copied and pasted his suggestions below. Any other suggestions welcome.


Niall


"Other suggestions for future BUDA'sNorth Wales - Royal St Davids, Aberdovey and NefynNorthern France - Le Touquet and HardelotBordeaux/Biarritz - St. Emillion, Golf du Medoc, Chiberta and Biarritz plus a number of vineyards South West England - Saunton, RND, B&B Long Island - why not USA?I am familiar to Bournemouth Area - Isle of Purbeck, Broadstone, Parkstone, Meyrick Park and Ferndown Like the thought of Mull"

[Niall C]

Also to add to the discussion, it was suggested to me that Moray might be a good venue with two links courses and plenty of other fun/quirky courses within easy travel distance. Moray also has the advantage for those wanting to use BUDA as the starting or finishing point of an extended tour in that the likes of Nairn, Dornoch and the Aberdeen courses are within relatively easy reach. Just a thought.


Niall

[Ally Mcintosh]

Hi Niall,

Great to meet you at the weekend.

Whilst this may not be a concern for many, especially those travelling from the States, my vote goes to wherever we can secure a weekend BUDA.

Ally

[Tony_Muldoon]

I'd like to suggest Cypress Point and Pebble Beach on Labor Day weekend.  Now who wants to be organizer?




Which is to say all destinations are equal until they come with someone prepared to do the legwork. So if you want to suggest a venue please state if you'll take the organizing on.




I know of two.


Sean has said he would organize Kington (with Church Stretton as an aside?)


Craig has said he'll look into Rye and Littlestone (Doh!) as long as its August.




Both of these suggestions seem excellent to  me and thank you for the offers.




I hope this thread hangs around long enough for those hardy few still a Golfing to comment.




(PS I need friggin counselling. I am obviously too softly spoken and TOO obtuse in my utterings. I can understand that after all these years I'm never heard at home, but I did mention Craig's offer several time and yet apparently no one HEARD ME!)

[Michael Whitaker]

Tony,

I think you mean Rye and Littlestone. 

This would definitely be an outstanding Buda, as would a Kington Buda organized by Sean. I know both Sean and Craig would pull together a fine event. 

I originally voted for Mach & Mach Dunes, but I LOVE the idea of a French Buda at Le Touquet and Hardelot. Perhaps we could get some help from Frank Pont with the organizing? I think the Buda should be organized by a Euro, but I'd be happy to help with a French event where possible.

 In any case, if I'm alive I'll attend Buda 2017 wherever the location. 

[Ben Stephens]

Mike,


We could still play Deal and jump on the ferry to Calais and drive up to Le Touquet/Hardelot etc


I don't mind wherever we go as long as BUDA exists


Cheers
Ben

[Michael Whitaker]

Mike,

We could still play Deal and jump on the ferry to Calais and drive up to Le Touquet/Hardelot etc

Ben,

Wardo and I made that trip in advance of the Holland Buda! The French courses, wine and food were amazing!!! I'd love to go back with an entire Buda group. 

[ward peyronnin]

That France swing was so magical I almost felt like I was on my second honeymoon

[Craig Disher]

I did suggest Rye & Littlestone as a good pair even though we had a Buda at Littlestone a few years ago. If there is agreement on this, I'd need to start organizing asap. Rye would be possible on a weekend but it's essential to get in the 2017 fixtures discussion soon. As everyone knows, Rye is a 2-ball club with foursomes preferred (I think a morning foursomes round/lunch/afternoon 2-ball would be possible on a Saturday or Sunday). Littlestone accepts 4-ball play at certain times but I think we could finesse that. Rye and Littlestone are within 20 minutes of each other and there are plenty of options for accommodation and food. If late July through August is not possible, I can't be of much help.

[Ally Mcintosh]

I did suggest Rye & Littlestone as a good pair even though we had a Buda at Littlestone a few years ago. If there is agreement on this, I'd need to start organizing asap. Rye would be possible on a weekend but it's essential to get in the 2017 fixtures discussion soon. As everyone knows, Rye is a 2-ball club with foursomes preferred (I think a morning foursomes round/lunch/afternoon 2-ball would be possible on a Saturday or Sunday). Littlestone accepts 4-ball play at certain times but I think we could finesse that. Rye and Littlestone are within 20 minutes of each other and there are plenty of options for accommodation and food. If late July through August is not possible, I can't be of much help.

If the above suggestion works with one weekend day at Rye, I can't think of anything better. Sign me up now. Ally

[Thomas Dai]

Kington was mentioned a few times but an oft heard response was "Where is it?"


- open this satmap to see it close up and zoom out to see it's location in relation to the rest of England/Wales - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.2172508,-3.0427269,14z/data=!3m1!1e3


- and here's the nearest streetcam shows of it....move around the area as you wish - https://www.instantstreetview.com/@52.213248,-3.037266,-65.81h,-1.77p,1z


and here's Sean's Kington photo-tour - http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,30926.0.html


Atb

[David_Tepper]

While I have yet to attend a Buda, I would be happy to help organize one here in the bonnie Highlands, perhaps around a Brora-Golspie pairing.

[Mark Pearce]

While I have yet to attend a Buda, I would be happy to help organize one here in the bonnie Highlands, perhaps around a Brora-Golspie pairing.

David,


Brora/Golspie came up in at least one conversation I was part of.  I think they would make a superb BUDA, with plenty of options for pre and post BUDA golf.  It's an unwritten rule that the BUDA organiser should have attended a BUDA but if there was an appetite for your suggestion I'd be happy to volunteer as a co-organiser.

[Jon Wiggett]

While I have yet to attend a Buda, I would be happy to help organize one here in the bonnie Highlands, perhaps around a Brora-Golspie pairing.

David,


Brora/Golspie came up in at least one conversation I was part of.  I think they would make a superb BUDA, with plenty of options for pre and post BUDA golf.  It's an unwritten rule that the BUDA organiser should have attended a BUDA but if there was an appetite for your suggestion I'd be happy to volunteer as a co-organiser.

You could also throw in Wick, Tain and Fortrose into this mix. I would certainly be up for this.

[David_Tepper]

Mark P. -

Thanks for your offer. I understand the desire to have experienced "Buda-ists" as organizers of future events.
Should the collective decision be to pursue the Brora-Golspie tandem as the site for a Buda in 2017 or 2018, your participation as organizer or co-organizer is just fine with me.

DT   
 

[Rich Goodale]

Good start.  Following are my criteria for relative BUDA success:


1. One central course (4 or 5 of the 5 games played over 3 days) (e.g. Painswick and Silloth)
2. One central hotel(s) to create camaraderie
3. Minimal driving
4. Relative freedom of the course (weekdays, May/June, finish day 3 mid afternoon for closure)
5. Local participation.  Fill in open spots with local members (e.g. Dorncoh, Painswick, Littlestone, Lundin, Hollinwell)
6. 1-2 dedicated sponsors/organisers (herding cats ain't easy)
7. Nearby pre and post venues
8. Ideally new courses


Of the choices proposed so far I like: Brora (2nd course at BUDA I); St. Emilion--Doak's course, if available; Rye (Solid BUDA history, good town); Lossiemouth (if we can find a decent hotel) in no particular order.


Keep all the suggestions coming!

[Ulrich Mayring]

I second all these criteria, but would also happily renounce each, if the package otherwise is irresistable. The most important aspect is whether someone would step up and propose a rough outline for an event he is willing to organise.

I seem to remember once we had three of those outlines on the table (Ireland, Silloth and the Netherlands) and while only one could get the nod at that time, all three have meanwhile been realised. So this is not a win-lose contest - as far as I'm concerned any proposal has merits enough simply on the grounds that it's a Buda

Ulrich

[Michael Whitaker]

That France swing was so magical I almost felt like I was on my second honeymoon

[Robin_Hiseman]

I will be able to negotiate a good deal for Machrihanish and Mach Dunes, through my contacts. Not for me to lobby hard this time, but if it is of interest let me know.

[Ally Mcintosh]

I never quite understand how this thing works, I must admit.

There are always 5 or 6 suggestions and tentative offers to organise. Then because everyone's so polite, no one likes to organise anything until there's a clear front runner. Which there never is because all suggestions are always good.

Generally speaking, getting most courses / areas organised is the easy thing.  Unless it's a quite private, upper end English course on the weekend (like Rye).

So because I'm selfish and I haven't seen Rye or Littlestone and I'd like some people to take a side trip to Pulborough because I think it one of the very best heathlands, and because Rye is by all accounts a lovely village to stay, and because we could have a great lunch and evening meal there and because it's easy to reach from Gatwick, I am more than willing to right now help Craig Disher do any phone calls / organising he wishes to have help with.

But I realise it's not as easy as that and there has to be behind the scenes secret conferences and handshakes. Plus you've maybe been there already, have you?

Still think the previous year's participants shouldn't be able to leave without the next year's venue being decided there and then.

Ally

[Sean_A]

There are always 5 or 6 suggestions and tentative offers to organise. Then because everyone's so polite, no one likes to organise anything until there's a clear front runner. Which there never is because all suggestions are always good.


Still think the previous year's participants shouldn't be able to leave without the next year's venue being decided there and then.

Ally

Ally


This is exactly how I feel. Happy to organize, but only if I have a large contingent of folks behind the idea. That said, Kington fails several Rihc tenants for a successful Buda, but I am only interested in organizing "different" sort of locations for Buda. 


I agree, maybe three ideas are on the table at a current Buda (decided by the current organizers from various offers/ideas...as part of the itinerary) and a decision taken during the big dinner for the following year. Seems a lot easier than the secret handshakes and closed door meetings.


Ciao 

[Niall C]

Damn, all my secret lobbying for Forfar has gone to waste.

Sean/Ally,

I agree with you guys, somewhere slightly off the beaten track or at least where there's a good chance you won't bump into a Perry Golf coach in the car park would be preferred. That said, I've only been to two of these events and my future participation isn't as assured as some of you other guys so reluctant to start lobbying one way or the other however Craigs suggestion sounds like a good one.

Rich

There are a couple of hotels that overlook the course/clubhouse at Lossie. In truth I'm not sure of the quality but if not Lossie there are a number of other options in Elgin or Forres which aren't far away. I tend to think a BUDA based at Moray GC would be a winner for several reasons but also conscious that there are several ideas which have been floated before such as Craig's suggestion so perhaps Moray could be done some time after.

Niall

[Sean_A]

Niall


Well, I have only been to three or four Budas so I am not a stalwart. Its probably best if the core guys do their thing...there seems to have been mucho success this way.  One thing is for sure, if somebody is happy to organize I am happy to let them kick on.  I likely won't make it anyway.


Ciao 

[Thomas Dai]

Being a newbe Buda-ite my thoughts carry less weight of experience than those who have been to several Buda's before, however, one of the nicest aspects of last week at Belmullet was that so many of us were staying in the same hotel.


This resulted in a great deal of what I shall describe as unity, or group-togetherness if you like, and others commented on the pleasantless of this aspect too. For example, being able to sit with different participants at breakfast each morning and no driving needed for those who wished to sample beverages in the evenings.


I would therefore be inclined to favour a venue where one-location accommodation is available to handle a Buda size of group.

Some great suggestions made so far!

Atb

[Mark Chaplin]

Due to the B&B I've not been able to play Buda for a few years, but that should change in the next year. Just  a thought on Rye/Littlestone, Deal week for 2017 is 19th to 27th August. It's a marvellous opportunity for pre/post Buda golf and costs a fraction of the green fee. The full 9 day ticket this year was around £170 and individual events are £40-70 for a minimum of two rounds and if you start winning matches up to six rounds.

Worth a look if you choose the Disher option!