Future BUDA venues ?

[Mark Pearce]

Sean have you been on the sauce? If you were playing a BUDA foursome you wouldn't come up against a slow four ball as you'd be playing at a two ball club!

Wanting to avoid two ball clubs takes away some interesting and quirky courses from the table. Aldeburgh, Royal Ashdown, Huntercombe, Rye, Royal Worlington and Brancaster spring to mind.

Mark,


It's a while since you have been to a BUDA.  In that time we have played foursomes at fourball clubs.  It would be great to see you at another.

[Thomas Dai]

Any chance if we smiled nicely at a two-ball/foursomes club they'd let us play greensomes? We played greensomes format at the recent Buda and it seemed to go down well.......and they used to play greensomes at the Ryder Cup (wish they still did).


Incidentally, Littlestone apparently has two-ball/foursomes only restriction times.


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[Mark Chaplin]

Mark my availability for the BUDA is likely to vastly increase next year. Looking forward to joining you all again before too long.

Thomas greensomes is one of the most painful forms of the game ever invented.

[Thomas Dai]

Thomas greensomes is one of the most painful forms of the game ever invented.

I totally disagree 😊. Each to their own though.
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[Steve Wilson]

I think the prospect of Rye is such an outstanding venue it should move to the front of the line.


And. As I am likely to be an overseas member of Golspie for some years to come I'd be happy to contribute whatever assistance I could manage towards organizing a Brora/Golspie or Golspie/Brora BUDA.

[Mark Chaplin]

Thomas the long hitter hits it in the rough and there's a short one in the fairway. Both players go to find the far ball, either don't find it or it's in trouble so the partner walks back to play the shorter ball. Dreadfully painful, but then 90% of my golf is foursomes.

[Craig Disher]

No greensomes at Rye - foursomes only. Littlestone does have restrictions on 4-ball play but there are ways around it.

[Ally Mcintosh]

No greensomes at Rye - foursomes only. Littlestone does have restrictions on 4-ball play but there are ways around it.

What about singles, Craig? Is that an option for either before or after lunch?

[Rich Goodale]

Rich,
My suggestion for 2017 isn't to schedule 5 foursome rounds at Rye. I've asked for a day at Rye and once confirmed will ask for a day and a half at Littlestone where we can play 2-ball or 4-ball - or 3 more rounds of foursomes just to aggravate you 

Thanks, Craig.  No Aggro!

[Craig Disher]

No greensomes at Rye - foursomes only. Littlestone does have restrictions on 4-ball play but there are ways around it.

What about singles, Craig? Is that an option for either before or after lunch?

Reserving the tee at Rye for 12 groups isn't possible. Rye does not have tee times and members will show up with the expectation that even if a society is playing there won't be a long wait.

[Tom_Doak]

If you can do Rye, do Rye.


I am a week away from scouting out Minchinhampton Old and hopefully a full look at Cleeve Cloud; my sense is that those would be fantastic venues [and extremely affordable, to boot].  Rich G. implies that places like these, or Kington, are not BUDA worthy, but the only BUDA I have attended was at Painswick, and that was as interesting as they come.  Rich must be losing his memory if he doesn't agree.


Cavendish would be another lovely venue if they'd have you.

[Ally Mcintosh]

No greensomes at Rye - foursomes only. Littlestone does have restrictions on 4-ball play but there are ways around it.

What about singles, Craig? Is that an option for either before or after lunch?

Reserving the tee at Rye for 12 groups isn't possible. Rye does not have tee times and members will show up with the expectation that even if a society is playing there won't be a long wait.

As I suspected. Thanks Craig

[Thomas Dai]

Thomas the long hitter hits it in the rough and there's a short one in the fairway. Both players go to find the far ball, either don't find it or it's in trouble so the partner walks back to play the shorter ball. Dreadfully painful, but then 90% of my golf is foursomes.

Mark,
I guess we've both heard and discussed all the pros and cons for both formats over the decades so nothing to be gained by churning them over again. As I said earlier, each to their own.


Steve,
That's a great offer. Golspie/Brora would be a very fine location and with so many other worthies not that far away to play as well.


Tom,
Cleeve and Minchinhampton Old, now you're talking! Would be wonderful especially early season when the conditioning is better. If these plus Painswick/Stinchcombe were possibilities I could help organise although I believe Adrian has posted about organising an event at these in the past.


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[Duncan Cheslett]

Cavendish would be another lovely venue if they'd have you.

I am sure that Cavendish would love to host such an event. Buxton is a good town for accommodation etc and Reddish Vale is 30 minutes away.


I would love to organise a Cavendish/Reddish Vale BUDA one day but not until I have attended a couple.

[Tony_Muldoon]

If you can do Rye, do Rye.


I am a week away from scouting out Minchinhampton Old and hopefully a full look at Cleeve Cloud; my sense is that those would be fantastic venues [and extremely affordable, to boot].  Rich G. implies that places like these, or Kington, are not BUDA worthy, but the only BUDA I have attended was at Painswick, and that was as interesting as they come.  Rich must be losing his memory if he doesn't agree.


Cavendish would be another lovely venue if they'd have you.

I like the informality of how it all falls into place but...


Speak up overseas travelers. You are the guys who invest hugely in terms of time and money to come to these events and your voices MUST be heard. Without you....


BUDA will be fun wherever it is, but living in GB I know I will make it to all the possible venues listed at some point.  I can see how if you know the no of visits you'll be able to make to these islands is going to be finite, how important to YOU is it that the BUDA event is either at or close to a few (famous) bucket list courses?   Is this a make or break feature?

[Mark Pearce]

David,


I think Adrian has mentioned that in the past.  In the same way as Steve and I have volunteered to help organise a Golspie/Brora BUDA because David T has not been to a BUDA, then I think Adrian would need a co-organiser, as I don't think he has been to a BUDA, so your offer would be very helpful.

[Ulrich Mayring]

If I count as "overseas", my preference is for courses I haven't seen before. I know that Buda will never be played at an uninteresting course, because the architectural standards are high amongst this group.

Since I know most of the bucket list courses in Kent including Rye and Littlestone from previous Buda trips, I would prefer something like Kington, because I just see no way of ever getting there without a Buda.

Ulrich

[John Mayhugh]

If I count as "overseas", my preference is for courses I haven't seen before. I know that Buda will never be played at an uninteresting course, because the architectural standards are high amongst this group.

Since I know most of the bucket list courses in Kent including Rye and Littlestone from previous Buda trips, I would prefer something like Kington, because I just see no way of ever getting there without a Buda.

Ulrich makes two good points:

• Wherever Buda goes, the course(s) will be worth our time.
• Buda can provide the impetus to see courses many wouldn't otherwise see.

I get that a bigger name course is perceived as more of a draw, and I'm sure that's correct to some extent.  There's also lot to be said for having Buda at a place where we aren't having to wrangle time slots.   I'll support either approach, and a day of foursomes at Rye sounds terrific to me.  But then, so do the other suggestions.

[Michael Graham]

I've only been able to attend one BUDA so I know my opinion won't nor should it, hold as much weight as the regulars but the prospect of a couple of days at Rye and Littlestone sounds terrific. Saying that, Golspie/Brora would also make for a great BUDA venue. Hopefully BUDA will return to Scotland in the not too distant future.

[Sean_A]

If I count as "overseas", my preference is for courses I haven't seen before. I know that Buda will never be played at an uninteresting course, because the architectural standards are high amongst this group.

Since I know most of the bucket list courses in Kent including Rye and Littlestone from previous Buda trips, I would prefer something like Kington, because I just see no way of ever getting there without a Buda.

Ulrich

Ulrich


Didn't you play Kington? 


The Buda has done quite well avoiding the bus tour courses.  I can't see much of an issue with playing a higher profile club once in a while.  I don't know what the average attendance of Buda is, but other than cost, the potential big issues with Rye are numbers capped at 24 and only one game (if I read the proposal correctly) at Rye...so all golfers don't play all tees...I know its popular for our southern brethren to slag off the indifferent 4somes crowd, but playing half the tees may be considered a serious drag for folks making an effort to see Rye.  Is this the case Craig?


Ciao

[Ulrich Mayring]

Sean,

I did not play Kington, I just did a stop-over there for a sandwich and a chat with Kenneth Lewis.

Ulrich

[Craig Disher]

The Buda has done quite well avoiding the bus tour courses.  I can't see much of an issue with playing a higher profile club once in a while.  I don't know what the average attendance of Buda is, but other than cost, the potential big issues with Rye are numbers capped at 24 and only one game (if I read the proposal correctly) at Rye...so all golfers don't play all tees...I know its popular for our southern brethren to slag off the indifferent 4somes crowd, but playing half the tees may be considered a serious drag for folks making an effort to see Rye.  Is this the case Craig?


Ciao

Sean,
The suggestion is 36 holes at Rye - all foursomes which would allow everyone to play every tee box. Start around 9, lunch and bantering between 12 and 2, off again at 2:30, done by 6.

[Ally Mcintosh]

The Buda has done quite well avoiding the bus tour courses.  I can't see much of an issue with playing a higher profile club once in a while.  I don't know what the average attendance of Buda is, but other than cost, the potential big issues with Rye are numbers capped at 24 and only one game (if I read the proposal correctly) at Rye...so all golfers don't play all tees...I know its popular for our southern brethren to slag off the indifferent 4somes crowd, but playing half the tees may be considered a serious drag for folks making an effort to see Rye.  Is this the case Craig?


Ciao

Sean,
The suggestion is 36 holes at Rye - all foursomes which would allow everyone to play every tee box. Start around 9, lunch and bantering between 12 and 2, off again at 2:30, done by 6.

I'll most certainly buy that

[Niall C]

I'll drink to that also.

[Sean_A]

The Buda has done quite well avoiding the bus tour courses.  I can't see much of an issue with playing a higher profile club once in a while.  I don't know what the average attendance of Buda is, but other than cost, the potential big issues with Rye are numbers capped at 24 and only one game (if I read the proposal correctly) at Rye...so all golfers don't play all tees...I know its popular for our southern brethren to slag off the indifferent 4somes crowd, but playing half the tees may be considered a serious drag for folks making an effort to see Rye.  Is this the case Craig?


Ciao

Sean,
The suggestion is 36 holes at Rye - all foursomes which would allow everyone to play every tee box. Start around 9, lunch and bantering between 12 and 2, off again at 2:30, done by 6.

I'll most certainly buy that

Si...+1


Ciao