Do Jason, Jordan, Adam et al regret not playing the Olympics?

[John Kavanaugh]

The course was one dimensional. Unwatchable over two weeks.

[David_Tepper]

"The course was one dimensional. Unwatchable over two weeks."

Which certainly explains why the TV ratings were so high.

[BHoover]

"The course was one dimensional. Unwatchable over two weeks."

Which certainly explains why the TV ratings were so high.

He's just drunk. Ignore him.

[John Kavanaugh]

When the most interesting architectural development over two weeks was the moving of a rake we may have a problem.

[Jeff Bergeron]

The course was one dimensional. Unwatchable over two weeks.






While i liked the course given the land. I generally agree with John. Hard to watch. Hard to distinguish the holes.

[David_Tepper]

"You Can Really Feel The Love For Olympic Golf"

http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2016/8/22/roundup-you-can-really-feel-the-love-for-olympic-golf.html

[John Kavanaugh]

David,


Why are the comment sections turned off on that blog? note: I haven't commented on that site in years every since it was made very clear that I wasn't welcome, for good reason no less. I do however enjoy the duplicitous stupidity often shared by the same people, and some ex's from this site.

[Ruediger Meyer]

I think he was tired of deleting comments.


There were a lot of opposing arguments towards his pro-Olympics stance. Some of them were personal attacks and out of line, which he understandably deleted. But it became a spiral where people were wondering where some comments had gone and he started deleting pretty regular comments as well, even if they were thoughtful and non-personal just because they were a little bit critical of him. I remember one post of some guy who wrote a very long comment why he liked the discussions in the comments. He asked why Geoff deleted his earlier comments and it got deleted as well. And Geoff has every right to do so. His home, his rules. But it seems a little bit odd for someone who rides a lot of personal attacks on his blog (just look at his post about Zach Johnson today) to delete comments just beacuse they are critical. He probably turned the comments off so the storm can settle.

[Sean_A]

I agree, Geoff is a bit one sided.  He dishes it out (a load), but is reluctant to take it back.  Just look at his bit about Zach Johnson.  Not very clever especially as Zach's opinion is very reasonable and not in the least anti-O. A lot of people feel the same way for the same reasons.  Instead, Geoff gets snarky rather than see the issue from an alternative PoV.


Ciao

[Tony_Muldoon]

It could also be because he's travelling?


I have to agree with the comments above but I prefer to visit sites that are actively moderated, it cuts out a lot of ++++.


Who knows who would still be posting here, if there were any rules applied.

[Peter Pallotta]

I used to follow it closely, but I went from surprised to disappointed to bored and haven't been back.  Surprised there was so little self-generated and in-depth content; disappointed by the mocking, smartest-brat-in-the-room stance; and bored by the conventional wisdom constantly being espoused. It's ok to go from being an outsider to insider, but if you don't realize you're an insider (or worse, if you keep pretending you're still an outsider) it becomes a drag -- there's nothing but enemies real or imagined to wake up and slay, and every opinion but your own is heretical.   

[Terry Lavin]

Shack seems very thin-skinned for a guy for such an aggressive cross-platform self-promoter.  He reminds me of Trump, who pretends to be tough while always complaining that he's being treated unfairly, horribly, terribly.  It must kill him to have to paste that phony grin on his face when he's on Morning Drivel, because he sure acts like he knows more than anybody in the studio at all times.  As for the comments in the blog, he goes out of his way to insult people then he deletes comments that aren't entirely consistent with his particular views on any given subject.  His shameless boosterism of his buddy Hanse's work on the Rio course, coupled with the acid he sprayed at anybody who had the temerity to not be enthralled with golf in the Olympics, was a real testament to how disagreeable he has become.  I'm happy he's making money in golf journalism, which ain't easy, but he sure doesn't act happy about his success or much of anything else.

[John Kavanaugh]

Shack seems very thin-skinned for a guy for such an aggressive cross-platform self-promoter.  He reminds me of Trump, who pretends to be tough while always complaining that he's being treated unfairly, horribly, terribly.  It must kill him to have to paste that phony grin on his face when he's on Morning Drivel, because he sure acts like he knows more than anybody in the studio at all times.  As for the comments in the blog, he goes out of his way to insult people then he deletes comments that aren't entirely consistent with his particular views on any given subject.  His shameless boosterism of his buddy Hanse's work on the Rio course, coupled with the acid he sprayed at anybody who had the temerity to not be enthralled with golf in the Olympics, was a real testament to how disagreeable he has become.  I'm happy he's making money in golf journalism, which ain't easy, but he sure doesn't act happy about his success or much of anything else.

Each time I think I'm good at something someone comes along and shows me how it is done. Wow, I need a change of pants, in a good way.

[MClutterbuck]

Well, Jordan does:


“I watched it. I really enjoyed it. It came off I thought tremendous for the game. I enjoyed watching the finish to the Olympics and I wished I was there. At the time I made the decision, it was the right decision for me. And I told you guys in that press conference, it was the hardest thing I’ve had to do. The potential for regret was going to be there and it certainly was while I was watching, so that’s why I Tweeted out, ‘I’m looking forward to setting it as a goal to be there in 2020.'”

[Tom_Doak]

He's looking forward to setting it as a goal?  That's unusually tentative.  His confidence must be really off.

[David_Tepper]

Removed to avoid any further confusion.

DT
 

[Terry Lavin]

To each his own.

[Jeff Bergeron]

Probably time to shut this baby down.

[David_Tepper]

Interesting article by Doug Ferguson on why the Olympic Golf format was the way it was and how it might be changed:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3753128/The-simple-fix-golf-isnt-simple.html

[Kalen Braley]

I think its important to remember that this event was far from top notch.  Given the limited number of entries per country it was rule bound to be 2nd tier at best.  A quick look at the leaderboard reveals very few "names" and most of those guys were probably just stoked to be teeing it up with the big boys in dream-team-fan-boy-adoration fashion.


Furthermore, in general, given the limited number of slots in every sport, none of these events were truly the best of the best.  Pick your sport and there was a whole gaggle of more deserving people left out so some dude from Kazhikstan could get smoked like a JV kid.

I get the whole Ra Ra, cheer for your country thing, but the Olympics has never been about show casing the best of the best or the USA would have 10 basketball teams.  Yes, I think it has the world unity thing going on, but lets not delude/pretend that this is about top notch competition.

[Jon Wiggett]

Kalen,


I agree totally with you that in many sports the field is missing many top players but maybe you are over looking the fact that the OG is between competing nations not individuals.

[David_Tepper]

Kalen -

While the men's event clearly had a weak field, the women's event had the 2 best players eligible from almost every country participating. The only way the women's field could have been stronger was if South Korea was permitted to enter 8 or 10 golfers.

My guess is the quality of the field on the men's side will be much stronger in 2020. That is how tennis participation in the Olympics evolved.

DT
 

[BHoover]

It seems to me that golf in the Os is something that will be part of the Os long after we have fallen off the twig.

[jeffwarne]

I think its important to remember that this event was far from top notch.  Given the limited number of entries per country it was rule bound to be 2nd tier at best.  A quick look at the leaderboard reveals very few "names" and most of those guys were probably just stoked to be teeing it up with the big boys in dream-team-fan-boy-adoration fashion.


Furthermore, in general, given the limited number of slots in every sport, none of these events were truly the best of the best.  Pick your sport and there was a whole gaggle of more deserving people left out so some dude from Kazhikstan could get smoked like a JV kid.

I get the whole Ra Ra, cheer for your country thing, but the Olympics has never been about show casing the best of the best or the USA would have 10 basketball teams.  Yes, I think it has the world unity thing going on, but lets not delude/pretend that this is about top notch competition.

So the Olympics are a second tier event because the US has more great basketball players than all other countries combined?


The Olympics are the pinnacle event for sports in the world.

By your logic The Masters is second tier compared to  FedEx Cup "Playoff" events

[Kalen Braley]

Jeff,


When it comes to basketball?  Yes!

Hell most NBA D-league teams could have won the Olympics!

And yes I'd much rather watch the Lakers and C's play in the NBA finals...two teams I despise. 


P.S  And yes, the Players chammpionship is the best full field event year in and year out...it should be  a major!