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mike_malone

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An Essay after golf in England/Wales
« on: June 21, 2016, 11:57:59 AM »
I will be posing several queries (a Quaker thing).
What is golf?
What is a golf course?
What is a golfer?
What is a golf club?

You can start if you like . I have seen many types of each on my trip. Rather than say one is better than the other I praise the diversity. 
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mike_malone

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Re: An Essay after golf in England/Wales
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 06:36:21 PM »
Golf is the game of planning and executing shots. My mates did not want to have competitions and some of the conditions where lost balls were rampant meant scoring was an unpleasant way to judge the experience.
A golf course is a place of varied options of play with few disastrous outcomes.
Golfers are in the mess together so they love to share their views and their enthusiasm for the game , particularly with strangers. Golfers are engaged in a constantly frustrating effort so they need fun of some sort.
Golf clubs have varied cultures that reflect their hospitality, social status, and focus on the game.

I will discuss soon how the courses led to these conclusions. We played Royal courses and courses for the lowest class able to play. We played one course ( St. Enedoc) whose heavy rough combined with blind shots made for a frustrating day for all. We pulled trollies, carried our own, and used a caddy. We stayed in B+B's owned by members and others who did not know the difference between Penarth and Pennard. We ate after golf at most of the clubs and uniformly thought the food and its presentation needed to be adopted at home.

We saw how one club (Burnham and Berrow) put on a competition which went off just before us and we saw the after golf festivities. They did a sensational job!
We headed ahead of a society at St. George's Hill. We were practically intertwined with the Royal Porthcawl  /Birkdale club match.
More later








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mike_malone

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Re: An Essay after golf in England/Wales
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2016, 05:24:59 PM »
We started at St. George's Hill. After a very hospitable visit with the starter we played Pine Valley Lite.
My favorite hole was the short par four on the front as the right green side bunker and fairway to its right were strategically on point.
Off to Westward Ho we went. This shows my bias. I love these old courses that are simple and fun. The sheep maintenance works for me.
St. Enodoc was next . The juiciness of the rough made recovery impossible.  Even finding your ball was fruitless usually. I felt that they decided where to put the tees and the greens regardless of what was between them!
Perranporth was a humble course which we played in a steady rain. After a downpour on the third hole we were wet the rest of the day. I enjoyed the play as we came to the back nine. With a little work to the bunkers and some interest in the greens this course would shine.
Burnham and Berrow ,which I played before, was solid throughout with the par threes standing out.
Southerdown provided my best golfing experience. I hit a good tee shot to a par three and dropped my putter as I took it out of my bag. It landed in sheep doo. I wiped it off and made the bird. The course was modest but fun.
Things stepped up as we played Pennard. I liked it the one other time I was there with Sean Arble but it seemed that they have improved the maintenance since then. I felt that here they went wherever they could to find the best holes.
We ended at the championship level Royal   Porthcawl   . I still see the fours as the most solid set I have played and this course as Pennard went wherever needed to make the best holes.
It was a very good trip with much variety .

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Ed Tilley

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Re: An Essay after golf in England/Wales
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016, 03:52:21 AM »
Looking at your itinerary, and given the grass growing weather we've had here, I can imagine the rough at some links courses would be absolutely brutal. I'm not sure I'd want to play St.Enodoc and/or Perranporth in these conditions - and these are 2 of my very favourite courses - given the number of blind shots and lost ball potential.

The 2 I'd most look forward to playing in these conditions would be RND and Southerndown due to the friendly sheep keeping the rough down.

I haven't played Pennard in years - do they have sheep on the course. There were cows on there when I last played but I think these are no longer on the course?

mike_malone

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Re: An Essay after golf in England/Wales
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 05:07:07 PM »
No sheep or cows were on Pennard. 
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Bill_McBride

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Re: An Essay after golf in England/Wales
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2016, 08:45:33 PM »
No sheep or cows were on Pennard.


What?  😱😱😱. They are a big part of the Pennard vibe. 

Ally Mcintosh

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Re: An Essay after golf in England/Wales
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2016, 02:57:06 AM »
Interesting take on the routing of St Enedoc vs the routing of Porthcawl and Pennard.

I agree on Porthcawl. I haven't seen the other two.