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Thomas Dai

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"Once-upon-a-time it took cunning and guile to eke out a good score from a course." is to slightly paraphrase a sentence I happened upon recently.


Does it still or has the importance of cunning and guile diminished as architectural, construction and maintenance practices, plus clubs and balls etc, have developed over the decades?


Atb

Mark Pavy

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Maybe it's the use of the terminology that's diminished- not the importance of the meaning.

"Today it takes decision making and strategy to grind out a good score from a course"



Joe Hancock

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One thing I might change in the phrase would be "....eke out a win over ones' opponent" rather than "...eke out a good score..."

The reasoning would be to address the intelligence factor of the golfer. In days of yore, the golfer who could decipher  differing conditions within a course....sands, grains, imperfect lies through the green, etc., would be able to compete nicely with a golfer who, while perhaps more technically proficient, might not have a handle on the variable conditions, especially in match play situations.

Today, we strive for homogeneous, invariable, consistent....and yes, perfect conditions despite what Mother Nature might otherwise dictate or allow. Technology, knowledge and other limitless resources allow us humans to have our way, so to speak. As in other areas of life, having what we think we want may not be in our best interests.

" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

jeffwarne

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Once upon  a time it took a team of
swing gurus.
short game whizzes
putting experts
psychic gurus
wind tunnel geniuses
club fitting specialists
physical trainers
launch monitor experts
life coaches
nutritionists
super caddies.......


to eek a good score from a course
« Last Edit: June 04, 2016, 09:19:15 PM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

John Kavanaugh

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I don't care where you play, and it took me 48 years to learn, if you are 250 out hit it to 80 yds. You just may get up and down. How I wish I had all those miss hit 3 woods back.

Steve Lang

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Once upon  a time it NEVER REQUIRED took a team of
swing gurus.
short game whizzes
putting experts
psychic gurus
wind tunnel geniuses
club fitting specialists
physical trainers
launch monitor experts
life coaches
nutritionists
super caddies.......


to eek a good score from a course


just a friend or caddie to watch the swing and a good wife
Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

Peter Pallotta

My two favourite sports (to play and watch respectively) are golf and baseball, but both have been burdened over the years by the poetic excesses and overblown rhetoric of purple-penned writers with too much time (on their hands) and not enough skill (to play the games well). "Guile and cunning"? Really?  No, not really -- either then or now. Some small modicum of athletic ability, the intelligence and spatial acuity of the average 10 year old, and (more importantly) a great short game has always done the trick.

Colin Macqueen

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Thomas,


I am of the persuasion that "Guile and Cunning" can still be made good use of on any course today just as it was in days of yore. I am always tickled pink when an opponent here in Oz sees my "cunning" little lay-up or running shot and marvels at the Scottishness of it all! Little do they know that if i tried the fancy high-flying, back-spinning sort of wizardry that is commonplace I'd likely shank the arse off it!! Yes give me "Guile and Cunning" any day of the week!


Cheers Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Thomas Dai

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Once upon  a time it took a team of
swing gurus.
short game whizzes
putting experts
psychic gurus
wind tunnel geniuses
club fitting specialists
physical trainers
launch monitor experts
life coaches
nutritionists
super caddies.......

to eek a good score from a course


:) :)


Atb

Steve Lang

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Thomas,


I am of the persuasion that "Guile and Cunning" can still be made good use of on any course today just as it was in days of yore. I am always tickled pink when an opponent here in Oz sees my "cunning" little lay-up or running shot and marvels at the Scottishness of it all! Little do they know that if i tried the fancy high-flying, back-spinning sort of wizardry that is commonplace I'd likely shank the arse off it!! Yes give me "Guile and Cunning" any day of the week!


Cheers Colin


Colin,


So you might say "Age and treachery beats youth and skill?"
Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

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