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Howard Riefs

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"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

PCCraig

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That list is mind-numbing. It's as if they had a summer intern write it.
H.P.S.

David Wuthrich

Agree with Texas course.  Treat to play!

Phil McDade

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Milwaukee CC's reputation as a tough "get" exceeds Blue Mound's, according to most Wisconsin golf nuts I've met.

Pete_Pittock

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Poor choice for Oregon. When I asked if I could play it, the question was "what day would you like".
Witch Hollow at Pumpkin Ridge, or the Fazio course at Pronghorn was what I expected.

Sven Nilsen

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"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Peter Pallotta

It's kind of fascinating: I don't know what the readership numbers are for GOLF, but there may be, right now, a million golfers out there who have played none of those courses, and about a thousand golfers in here who have played all of them. In another era, some of us would've been amongst the chosen few who got in behind the ropes at Studio 54, while the giant crowd of kids from the suburbs stood outside and gawked. Fast and firm is the new cocaine, Mike Keiser the new Andy Warhol, and our beloved Ran serves pretty well as Gay Talese.

Jeff Bergeron

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They might work on Indiana as Wolf Run has been sold for a housing development. I've actually played several of these unaccompanied. The list is suspect.


Michael Whitaker

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They nailed South Carolina. Cherokee Plantation only has around nine members. They wouldn't let Ernie Els join!

Superintendent told me they only have around 500 rounds per year... and, half of those are by the pro!

Side Bar:  Cherokee Plantation is named after the Cherokee Rose, a native flower that grows wild throughout their 1400 acres. The head of the old American Motors was a member and loved the place so much he named the Jeep Cherokee after it.
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

Tommy Williamsen

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They might work on Indiana as Wolf Run has been sold for a housing development. I've actually played several of these unaccompanied. The list is suspect.


Googled this and couldn't find anything. Is the course closed?
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St. John of the Cross

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Matt MacIver

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Pretty good list to me, all the ones I expected to be on are there.  I'm 1/50 that feels about right. 

Jeff Bergeron

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They might work on Indiana as Wolf Run has been sold for a housing development. I've actually played several of these unaccompanied. The list is suspect.


Googled this and couldn't find anything. Is the course closed?




Two independent sources in Indy told me it was sold for $12M and will become a housing development.

Brad Tufts

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Re: Golf.com - "America’s Toughest Tee Times
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2016, 09:40:20 PM »
Isn't the Midwest Mashie at Wolf Run soon?

Old Waverly is interesting, as I think that one is accessible through staying at a local hotel (could be wrong).

I would not say TCC in Mass, just because it has a high number of members, so there are more people to have a connection with.  Myopia all the way...although accessible through a number of charity outings.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2016, 09:42:09 PM by Brad Tufts »
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Jeff Shelman

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This was marginally interesting. They certainly seemed to make the right choice in several states. While I have played a few of these, there are many places on this list that I'd be thrilled to play.


Michael Graham

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Surely there must be a more difficult to access course in Nevada than Shadow Creek? Provided you pony up the green fee and stay in an MGM hotel you're in.


Wouldn't Southern Highlands be a tougher tee time?

AChao

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RE: Southern Highlands and Shadow Creek.  I think if you are a big gambler and have a $50k plus credit line, you can let your host know where you want to play pretty much throughout all the Las Vegas country clubs, and you will be able to play.  I think many casinos buy individual memberships for hosts -- they will call you in as an unaccompanied guest. 

If you don't have a large line or don't gamble much, then Shadow Creek should be much easier to play than Southern Highlands -- the latter will require knowing someone or being at a club where the pro knows the SH pro.

Tim Martin

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RE: Southern Highlands and Shadow Creek.  I think if you are a big gambler and have a $50k plus credit line, you can let your host know where you want to play pretty much throughout all the Las Vegas country clubs, and you will be able to play.  I think many casinos buy individual memberships for hosts -- they will call you in as an unaccompanied guest. 

If you don't have a large line or don't gamble much, then Shadow Creek should be much easier to play than Southern Highlands -- the latter will require knowing someone or being at a club where the pro knows the SH pro.


Pretty sure you just have to stay at a Wynn owned property and you can arrange Shadow Creek.

Adam Lawrence

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Seth Smyers?
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Josh Tarble

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They might work on Indiana as Wolf Run has been sold for a housing development. I've actually played several of these unaccompanied. The list is suspect.


Googled this and couldn't find anything. Is the course closed?

I don't believe anything is official yet, but I do know a letter was sent to members.  Will for sure be open until the end of the year.

Criss Titschinger

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Wolf Run is still open. I'm 99% sure the Mashie will still be played there this year. Stuff happening in the background, but no final direction yet, as I understand it.

Ohio is probably right, although I think Double Eagle or perhaps Pepper Pike Club might be a harder get.

The MSP folks can correct me, but isn't Spring Hill a tougher get than Interlachen?
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 06:48:45 PM by Criss Titschinger »

BHoover

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Ohio is probably right, although I think Double Eagle or perhaps Pepper Pike Club might be a harder get.

The MSP folks can correct me, but is Spring Hill a tougher get than Interlachen?

In Ohio, I think the two toughest courses to access would be Camargo and Pepper Pike Club.

As for Spring Hill vs. Interlachen, I don't know but I'll let you know if I ever play either one.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 09:32:32 AM by Brian Hoover »

Josh Tarble

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Wouldn't the Golf Club be toughest in Ohio?

I'd also think Canyata is harder to get on than Chicago Golf in Illinois.

The list is fun - exclusive to some may be easy for others. 

Tom Allen

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Re: Golf.com
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2016, 09:39:19 AM »
Ohio is probably right, although I think Double Eagle or perhaps Pepper Pike Club might be a harder get.

The MSP folks can correct me, but is Spring Hill a tougher get than Interlachen?

In Ohio, I think the two toughest courses to access would be Camargo and Pepper Pike Club.

As for Spring Hill vs. Interlachen, I don't know but I'll let you know if I ever play either one.

I have to third that on Camargo.  Muirfield Village and The Golf Club are easier to get on than Camargo.    Not tried Pepper Pike (or Double Eagle, for that matter).

Josh Tarble

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Well, to be fair Camargo does host US Am qualifying every year, so just have to be under a 2.4 handicap....

Although that may be harder than getting any of these courses for most people.

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