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Matt_Cohn

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US Amateur Four-Ball
« on: April 16, 2016, 12:51:59 PM »
I've had some great experiences meeting up with GCA'ers at USGA events in the past. Is anyone else playing, officiating, or otherwise planning to be at Winged Foot next month?

Jaeger Kovich

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2016, 06:13:34 AM »
The women's event is at Streamsong Blue in late May.

Andy Johnson

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2016, 11:41:48 AM »
I wish, my partner and I 3 putted the last 2 holes at our qualifier to miss by 1...still fuming 6 months later. :-\

Chris Roselle

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2016, 01:59:57 PM »
I'll be there on Sunday to watch a former college teammate compete.  Gonna drive up from Philly on Saturday night.

Matt_Cohn

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2016, 05:28:46 PM »
I wish, my partner and I 3 putted the last 2 holes at our qualifier to miss by 1...still fuming 6 months later. :-\


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Jay Flemma

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2016, 01:01:49 PM »
I'll be covering it for the magazine.  See you there:)
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner

Matt_Cohn

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2016, 07:10:10 PM »
One more bump with this around the corner. :)

Bill_McBride

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2016, 07:41:00 PM »
Good luck Matt!

Carl Nichols

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2016, 09:15:00 PM »
I wish, my partner and I 3 putted the last 2 holes at our qualifier to miss by 1...still fuming 6 months later. :-\


Both of you on both holes?  Wow, sorry to hear that.

Jay Flemma

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2016, 09:51:49 PM »
Matt, hit me up off list and we'll meet up.
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner

V. Kmetz

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2016, 05:15:11 PM »
Hello,


I ended up having an interesting couple of days at the USGA 4-ball, as I got a call Sunday to work as a spotter for Fox.


1. As for my duties, on Tuesday, I accompanied writer-reporter Shane Bacon for the back nine of the Black-Joseph/Buecking-Enloe QF match, collecting yardages and clubs, verbally relaying them to the producer, handing Shane post-its, then signaling him clubs on Par 3s and wherever else I could, then after the competitors were greenside, I'd move off ahead to the next hole and await the tee shots to do it again.


2. On Wednesday, I performed about "half" of that function in the finals match, this time only collecting yardages for two of the players, reporting those to the producer, then hanging next to Curtis Strange during the approaches (and Par 3s) relaying club-signals from another guy to the producers and Curtis on holes 7 through the end of the match on #16.


3. Before heading out to the course to work those duties, I got to spend a half hour with Paul Azinger, being his chauffeur to catch some of the early action in the final Baxter-Buchanan/Cigna-Warnquist match. We had an illuminating talk about swings and what he looks for to prepare for the commentary; in particular we had a laugh or two about how much anxious focus golfers acquire as they go on in life and when one is young, we don't even "see" the trouble, and how the young players today are so much more technically focused and taught routine than anybody who's 40 or older. He and all of the Fox staff crew, inside and out, were really relaxed and friendly.


4. The funny thing is that with these duties, I really had no mind or attention for most of the golf that I was right in the middle of (or half the time 200 yards out from); I watched almost no greenside action.


If it bears same , I'll yield some further observations later on


cheers
vk
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"The tee shot must first be hit straight and long between a vast bunker on the left which whispers 'slice' in the player's ear, and a wilderness on the right which induces a hurried hook." -

Kalen Braley

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2016, 05:21:16 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 26, 2016, 05:26:49 PM by Kalen Braley »

Jeff_Lewis

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2016, 09:27:03 AM »
Congratulations on participating.   We went over for a bit during the stroke play and the courses looked spectacular.   Any sense of how the scoring differed on the East vs the West during stroke play?

Tom Bagley

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2016, 11:58:00 AM »
The West played two strokes harder than the East during stroke play:
http://www.usga.org/championships/2016/u-s--amateur-four-ball/course-statistics.html



Jeff_Lewis

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2016, 10:50:23 PM »
Thanks very much Tom.   I never would have expected 10 West to be "middle of the pack".   

Matt_Cohn

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2016, 01:11:17 AM »
Thanks very much Tom.   I never would have expected 10 West to be "middle of the pack".


It's a 5 or 6 iron to one of the larger greens on the course...it certainly shouldn't be as hard as 3, 8, 13, 16, 17, 18, and maybe a couple of other par-4's.

Neil Regan

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2016, 02:18:06 AM »
The USGA Stats were muddled with fuzzy data.
Walking scorers submitted sometimes 2 scores for a hole, if both players finished, or else 1 score if the other player picked up.
The scores were corrected by WF member Michael Baity, counting only the best-ball for each hole.


The 10th hole on the West was the 7th most difficult in relation to par.
It was not quite as hard as 17, 8, 18, 2, 13, and 9.
13 is a par 3.
9 is a converted par 5 to par 4 (albeit, converted 50 years ago for tournaments.)
1 West would normally be near the top of the list, but an easy pin all the way in the bottom made sure the field would finish that day. :)

Grass speed  <>  Green Speed

Matt_Cohn

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2016, 10:52:36 AM »
Neil, sorry to have missed you!


Surely 16 was on that list too?

Neil Regan

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Re: US Amateur Four-Ball
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2016, 11:28:10 AM »
#15 was ranked 8th
#16, 9th


I'll post the full chart later.
Grass speed  <>  Green Speed

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