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Ryan Taylor

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Favorite architect by par?
« on: April 08, 2016, 10:39:42 AM »
The Donald Ross short par 3 thread has me thinking. Who's your favorite architect by par? Apologizes if a similar thread already exists. I'll start:

Favorite architect for Par 3's? Donald Ross / Harry Colt a close second
Favorite architect for Par 4's? Tom Doak
Favorite architect for Par 5's? Willie Park Jr.
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Phil McDade

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2016, 11:35:20 AM »
William Langford for par 3s; he built several stand-out ones, and importantly his courses features a nice variety of them. He usually built 5 on each course. Lawsonia #10 and #4 stand out there; Spring Valley #5 and #17 for the green alone are also quite good.
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 01:09:08 PM »
Par 3 -Raynor/Mac
Par 4- No Faves, too many to count.
Par 5 - Anyone but Tillie.....I hate the Hell's Half Acre concept.
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JMEvensky

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2016, 01:39:54 PM »
Quote from: Jeff_Brauer on April 08, 2016, 01:09:08 PM

Par 5 - Anyone but Tillie.....I hate the Hell's Half Acre concept.



Why,the forced carry aspect?
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 02:07:45 PM »
Yes, absolutely. 

On my early days here, I remember quite a debate with Tommy N about it.  Even though Tillie is great, all architects get stuck on pet concepts, sometimes getting too attached.  While TN disagreed, he at least gave me props for logically defending it.
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JMEvensky

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 03:09:11 PM »
Quote from: Jeff_Brauer on April 08, 2016, 02:07:45 PM
Yes, absolutely. 

On my early days here, I remember quite a debate with Tommy N about it.  Even though Tillie is great, all architects get stuck on pet concepts, sometimes getting too attached.  While TN disagreed, he at least gave me props for logically defending it.


I understand your point. I think it takes a special kind of club and membership to play a HHA hole every day.At my place,the members would have it grassed over even if AWT himself had put down the sand.



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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2016, 03:51:17 AM »
Par 3 Mackenzie
Par 4 Braid/John Chilver-Stainer close second
Par 5 Mackenzie
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BCowan

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2016, 10:00:59 PM »
Par 3- Ross   
Par 4- Mackenzie/Maxwell or Colt/Alison
Par 5- Willie Park Jr or Dye
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 10:54:11 AM by Ben Cowan (Michigan) »
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Matt MacIver

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2016, 12:17:49 PM »
Par 3 - Mackenzie (admittedly it could be the sites he had that I like)
Par 4 - Ross (haven't seen any Colts)
Par 5 - Tillie (the #4 at B'page Black kind)


I could see Strantz being in here somewhere...may be the par 4.5 category.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2016, 02:26:49 PM »
3's - Harry Colt
4's - Herbert Fowler
5's - are they any real 5's these days?


Atb
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Michael Whitaker

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2016, 08:13:16 PM »
I'm a big fan of Mike Strantz' par 3s.
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Matt Dupre

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2016, 09:29:11 PM »
Par 3s - Flynn (I remember far more of his than of Ross')
Par 4s - Seems almost an unfair question - too many to choose from...
Par 5s - McRaynor - I always come back to the 15th at Shoreacres
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Jim Franklin

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2016, 10:47:38 AM »
Quote from: Jeff_Brauer on April 08, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
Par 3 -Raynor/Mac
Par 4- No Faves, too many to count.
Par 5 - Anyone but Tillie.....I hate the Hell's Half Acre concept.

Jeff -

Please come visit Baltimore CC when you get a chance. We only have two par fives but they are both superb. I think you would enjoy them even though one is called Hell's Half Acre.
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Matt Frey, PGA

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Re: Favorite architect by par?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2016, 10:53:12 AM »
Quote from: Jim Franklin on April 12, 2016, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: Jeff_Brauer on April 08, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
Par 3 -Raynor/Mac
Par 4- No Faves, too many to count.
Par 5 - Anyone but Tillie.....I hate the Hell's Half Acre concept.

Jeff -

Please come visit Baltimore CC when you get a chance. We only have two par fives but they are both superb. I think you would enjoy them even though one is called Hell's Half Acre.
Both of Five Farms' par-fives are fantastic, and that's coming from a guy who doubled the first!
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