Pinehurst #10

[Jay Mickle]

Today on the range at Pine Needles all of the talk was about the heavy equipment moving into the former course known as The Pit. It seems as if the Coore and Crenshaw course that has been discussed here in the past is about to become reality.

[Ronald Montesano]

More importantly, why were you on the range at Pine Needles? Taking a break from MidPines?


That is pretty neat information. Sad that they won't use the funky water area that gave the Pit its sex appeal.

[hhuffines]

Jay,


Awesome news, please keep us updated.  Hart

[Jay Mickle]

I expect we won't know the extent of the work that is being done at the moment until there is some formal announcement from Pinehurst. They sure could use a quality C&C course. Hope that I can afford it.

[Rees Milikin]

I expect we won't know the extent of the work that is being done at the moment until there is some formal announcement from Pinehurst. They sure could use a quality C&C course. Hope that I can afford it.

There is a C&C course not too far from there that is pretty good and fairly affordable.

[Carl Rogers]

I expect we won't know the extent of the work that is being done at the moment until there is some formal announcement from Pinehurst. They sure could use a quality C&C course. Hope that I can afford it.

There is a C&C course not too far from there that is pretty good and fairly affordable.

huh, Dormie for most of us is twice a year adventure ..........
Will C & C make the course self consciously different than the other 2?

[Ryan Taylor]

There is a C&C course not too far from there that is pretty good and fairly affordable.

DC is a good value M-W. TH-SU, not so much.

Peak rate on weekend is > my perceived value.

[Philip Hensley]

More importantly, why were you on the range at Pine Needles? Taking a break from MidPines?


That is pretty neat information. Sad that they won't use the funky water area that gave the Pit its sex appeal.

Warm up at PN range,'play over at MP

[Jason Thurman]

Is there anything from The Pit worth saving? Does anyone expect Coore and Crenshaw to restore a hole or two or use some of the same corridors? Or is the better land elsewhere on the property?

[Andrew Buck]

Pretty exciting stuff.  Of course it will certainly cost twice of Dormie at a minimum, but I'll play it.

[Dave August]

Will #10 be open to resort guests, or a member's only course?

[Ronald Montesano]

Is there anything from The Pit worth saving? Does anyone expect Coore and Crenshaw to restore a hole or two or use some of the same corridors? Or is the better land elsewhere on the property?

There is a lot worth saving, but I don't expect them to do so. I remember reading here that the majority of the front nine was going to be eliminated and not used, and none of the holes reclaimed. The back nine land would be used, but not the three holes by the pond.


My image is large, so you'll have to scroll horizontally and vertically. Here is what I recall, but I may be off base a bit:


http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Screenshot-65.jpg

[Adam Lawrence]

Bob Farren denies any immediate movement.

[Joe_Tucholski]

Will #10 be open to resort guests, or a member's only course?

If the heavy equipment is for #10, given there's been no mention in any member news I'd guess it's more likely to be a resort only course (similar to #8) with member play occasionally.

I don't live locally but haven't seen anything on #10 in the member newsletters or the various board committee minutes.

[Matt Bielawa]

For reference, here's what once was:

[Cory Lewis]

I'm surprised nobody has posted this link from a few years ago with the C&C routing:


http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,54438.msg1255099.html#msg1255099

[Brad Tufts]

Nice Cory.


My only question is...are they going to incorporate those funky conical mounds that existed on The Pit's routing?


That's what makes the site unique.  After playing the Pit holes that used those areas, it seems like normal golf hole scale was compromised in a couple places to accommodate those mounds...I'm thinking of one hole or two where a small, odd-looking green was crammed between some of the mounds, or a really narrow fairway with gunch on the mounds, etc.  I'd be curious how C&C would handle that...destroy some of them to make it work more fairly and attractively?  Go off-book and create something whimsical?


It does look like the sample routing goes through a couple of those areas...will be interesting when and if the project gets going. 

[Jay Mickle]

I drove in there yesterday evening. There was no equipment in view but I could proceed no further that the old 8th tee. Perhaps the rumors on the range were just some pre April fools joke. Not sure how else to explain someone mistaking seeing heavy equipment being moved onto the property.
May all be supposition as a result of Bill Coore being in town last month.

[Adam Lawrence]

I should probably expand a little on what Bob told me. Basically he said that, though they were 'gaining a little appetite for the idea' it was a stretch to say there was any immediate movement. Bill was, as Jay says, in town recently, and Bob said 'we always seem to find a way to spend some time on the site'.

[Ronald Montesano]

Wish that my routing were an intentional A-F Yoke, but clearly I was way off on which part of the land they were using, as well as the "other" Pinehust course (which is actually CCNC. As Bill Murray once said, it's the cough syrup.

[Greg Gilson]

I know its all ancient history. However, I am not too proud to admit I used to enjoy my annual round "surviving the Pit"! Back in what seems like a previous life (mid 90's!) we'd spend 1 long weekend/year driving down from North Virginia for 4 or 5 rounds in the Sandhills. The Pit was a fixture as first round out. I had even less idea about GCA then than I do now. ...but I loved that crazy stuff. I had grown up playing "proper" golf courses with sensible holes and fair bounces. The Pit made a big impression on me - so much that I started a thread once (here?) about the Pit maybe being Tobacco Road's long lost grand uncle.

Everyone misses some NLE i guess. However, i still go out and drive over those railway tracks for a stare into the distance  whenever i get back to Pinehurst - its more than a 5 hour drive these days.

[Richard Hetzel]

Ahh The Pit. I wished I had played there during one of my trips to Pinehurst, but time and weather did not allow for it. Hopefully the new #10 course turns out to be something special...

[Tom Fagerli]

When I Last drove by the old entrance (end of Jan this yr) the sign for The Pit was still up. I loved that place. Wow, it got hot in there during the summer! Some wonderful holes and so varied too. Short, long, wide, narrow, blind, open, water, Sandy wasteland. I miss it

[Scott_Burroughs]

Couldn't help but notice from the overlays on the linked thread that the C&C course is situated such that there still would be room for another course on the original #9 property and part of The Pit's front '7'.

[Jay Mickle]

From this week's Pilot newspaper:
 The Dedmans also own about 1,000 undeveloped acres near Aberdeen, including land that once housed a now-defunct course called The Pit Golf Links. Designers Coore and Crenshaw laid out a potential new course there in 2011, though no date to develop the property is set. The project is “much more on our radar now than it was two years ago,” says Pashley, who turned 47 in March. It would be the resort’s first new course since 2014, when it bought the adjacent National Golf Club, a Jack Nicklaus-designed course renamed Pinehurst No. 9. The resort also owns a steam plant near the village’s town center that may be renovated for other purposes.