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John Sabino

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The Original Evangelist of Golf
« on: February 29, 2016, 08:52:38 AM »
When George Bahto published his seminal book on Charles Blair Macdonald he titled it The Evangelist of Golf based on an article that Macdonald's son-in-law H.J. Whigham published as a tribute to the legendary golfer.


I recently acquired a copy of the 'original' Evangelist of Golf, which comes from an article published in September 1939 from Town & Country Magazine, where Whigham served as the editor. This vintage 24 page hardcover book was custom made and created by pasting sections of the article into the book, including the original pictures. The center of the book contains a picture of Whigham along with C. B. Macdonald and John W. Cross (an architect and member of NGLA) and Walter Trumbull (a sportswriter) playing at a Coffee House Golf tournament in 1927.


Along with the book there was a family letter from Macdonald's uncle Captain W. Macdonald, who served in the British military. Through this letter I was able to trace the family's history back to Scotland. Macdonald's father was named Godfrey and the family is from Argyll, Scotland. They lived in Southend on the Kintyre Peninsula, not far from Machrihanish. Macdonald's grandfather's (William) estate was named Ballyshear, the same name C.B. gave to his mansion across the bay from NGLA.


As far as I know none of the holes at the National are modeled after those at Machrihanish. It would be interesting to know whether it was among the courses Macdonald visited as he studied architecture.








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Niall C

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 11:09:57 AM »
John


That's an interesting find. When you say it is custom made are you saying it's a one-off, almost like a photo album ?


Re Machrihanish, the course got substantially redesigned after NGLA was built therefore making direct comparisons between what was built at NGLA and how Machrihanish was then might be tricky. It's interesting though that the drive at least of CBM's Cape hole was similar to the famed first at Machrihanish which I think I'm right in saying is largely original.


The only downside to putting forward the idea of Machrihanish being an influence is that I think that CBM was happy to say where he got his inspiration from but I'm not sure he mentioned Machrihanish but could be totally wrong on that count. Great find though. Can you share any more of what is in it ?


Niall

John Sabino

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2016, 11:43:44 AM »
Niall - The book is laid out almost like the intent was to mock it up so it could be published as a book, the contents are the article from Whigham.


An interesting tidbit, he mentions that the famed sportswriter Grantland Rice was a member of NGLA (I knew he played at Maidstone, Lakeside and Augusta National), didn't realized he belonged here also. It is interesting that Macdonald was so private, he shared very little about his background and family.


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JMEvensky

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 12:17:29 PM »

From The Lurker...


John Sabino:

 
With this thread you have supplied some fascinating information, including a few bits I have either never been aware of or have forgotten about. I considered George Bahto to be a pretty good friend over a period of about 12-15 years, and up to his death. Over the years we did a considerable amount of collaboration on architectural information of various sorts, but particularly on Macdonald, Raynor and Banks, NGLA, or on what one might reliably call "National School" architecture.
The thing that particularly struck me from your initial post is the existence of that little red book you've just purchased. I was aware that the term "Evangelist of Golf" came from Whigam's article in 1939, but I do not exactly recall if I also knew that little red book existed. I also think I recall that George Bahto did refer to the title of his book as coming from that Whigam article, but I do not recall if he ever mentioned that little red 1939 book by Whigam (he may have done and I have simply forgotten it). 
I suppose in the broad scheme of things to most people this doesn't seem like a big deal, but to me it sort of does, and perhaps for some curious reasons. Some of those reasons would be the fact I have long felt that some of the more fascinating "ups and downs" and complexities of C.B. Macdonald's life and times, both in and of his own life and times, but also in the context of some perceptions of it by others, either or both during his life or after he was gone, have largely been either under-researched, under-reported or generally misunderstood. 
Perhaps I will get to that later but not in this post, except to offer the teaser that I have broached some of my reasons previously while spending many years on GOLFCLUBATLAS.com. It always fascinated me that the reception they received on GOLFCLUBATLAS.com was generally some combination of denial and/or anger with a smattering of revisionism and iconolatry. 
None of the foregoing was to say then, or now, that I do not greatly admire and/or respect Macdonald and his life and career; it is only to say I am, and have long been, fascinated by it, and by him. I say this perhaps primarily because I firmly believe both he and his life and times were unusually complex and complicated. In other words, long ago I believe I came to the realization that if one thought he knew where Macdonald may have come from on certain issues and subjects, it was likely a pretty good bet that one would be wrong. This goes right to the heart of what I suppose I feel about an unusual number of people that the world considers to be either remarkably talented or simply "great:" that an unusual number of those types of people exhibit a remarkable amount of contradictions!
On the book itself, a copy of which you have recently acquired, I will perhaps get to that on another post. I believe I have seen an original copy of it before, and another time I will explain how, why and when. I am also curious to know If George Bahto ever saw it. He may not have, but then again he may have, as it was always my understanding from George, and to a lesser degree from the club itself, that he was afforded a good deal of access to most anything they had. Perhaps the one who may know most about the foregoing was his co-writer and/or editor on HIS book, The Evangelist of Golf, Gib Papazian. 

 
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John Sabino

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 01:38:39 PM »
Lurker - One of my regrets is not getting involved in golf while George was alive, by all accounts he sounded like a real gentleman and someone I would have enjoyed. I do agree that there is much more to Macdonald that is still to be discovered aside from his work on golf that would add insights into the man, his worldview beyond golf and any potential contradictions as you state.


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Mark Bourgeois

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2016, 03:28:17 PM »
Nice find!


Guys, Macdonald's definition of a Cape is a peninsula *green* jutting out into water, not an angled tee shot. Like the Cape at NGLA.


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Jon Cavalier

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2016, 12:29:33 AM »
John:

That is an incredibly interesting find - congrats on it. What a great piece of golf history.

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RJ_Daley

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2016, 12:52:38 PM »
Of course this is very interesting.  Yet, I can't help but feel a dual sense of nostalgia for GCA.com of old and loss for the realization that one has passed and one lurks.   At least the lurker is well... lurking.  8)
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John Sabino

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2017, 08:42:21 AM »
I just read the new National Golf Links of America club history that was issued late last year. Congratulations to Anthony Edgeworth, Chris Millard and others involved in the creation of the book, it is worthy of this fine club.
I noted that the club also has a bound copy of the original "Evangelist of Golf" book.
I found the club history illuminating in several regards. First, they published early images from the National’s archives, including those taken by the 1896 U.S. Open Champion James Foulis. The landscape is essentially treeless and looks quite stark. They also have an image of the old Shinnecock Inn hotel, which was situated behind today’s ninth green. They state that Macdonald, "had routed the course as though he expected the clubhouse to be placed in that same area,” and that the nines were to have been in the opposite configuration they are today.


They also note that the current club entrance wasn't created until twenty years after play began. The piece of land that runs along Bulls Head Bay used to surround the green on the 14th hole on three sides. After the club opened, they deeded a portion of the property to the town (the part that extends to the bay), and the famous Cape hole changed.


They book also highlights the architect Ralph Barton as being in the lineage of Raynor-Macdonald. I had always known that Charles Bank was a protege of this talented duo. I never knew Barton was as well. They credit him with working on both Yale and Mid-Ocean.
I was also fascinated by the comments regarding the "restoration" of the golf course. They appear to have been going on for some time and have been supervised by a club member and the greenskeeping staff. The changes seem to have focused on tree removal and enlarging the greens back to their original shapes. Would be curious how professional architects feel about clubs doing the work themselves; the changes at NGLA appear to me to have been quite well done.

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Ronald Montesano

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2017, 10:20:28 AM »
John,


Here's an interview with George from my site, back in 2010. Hope it gives a bit of George to you.


http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/review-march-2010-interview-with-george-bahto/


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MCirba

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2017, 11:14:11 AM »
They also have an image of the old Shinnecock Inn hotel, which was situated behind today’s ninth green. They state that Macdonald, "had routed the course as though he expected the clubhouse to be placed in that same area,” and that the nines were to have been in the opposite configuration they are today.

They also note that the current club entrance wasn't created until twenty years after play began. The piece of land that runs along Bulls Head Bay used to surround the green on the 14th hole on three sides. After the club opened, they deeded a portion of the property to the town (the part that extends to the bay), and the famous Cape hole changed.


John,

Am I interpreting you correctly that the caption in the new club history indicates that Macdonald had originally intended his clubhouse to be behind today's 9th green, near the spot of the original Shinnecock Inn that had been used as the original clubhouse?

Also, any indication how members and guests accessed the new clubhouse that was built between today's #1 and #18 after the Shinnecock Inn burned down and before the access road was built that compromised the green location of the original Cape hole?

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Steve Lang

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2017, 12:24:08 PM »
 8)   Mike,


Seems like a rehash of NGLA things from nearly 2 years ago is about to happen...
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MCirba

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2017, 12:29:13 PM »
Steve,

Jeez, I sure hope not and I certainly am not going to debate anyone who simply "feels" or "believes" without any direct supporting evidence that CBM intended this or that for his clubhouse location.   That's pointless, really.

My question was to understand more what the author's said and what they used as the basis for that determination.   

Thanks.
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Steve Lang

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2017, 12:43:59 PM »
 8)  John,


Is this "new National Golf Links of America club history that was issued late last year" by  Edgeworth & Millard, et. al. something that was sponsored by NGLA?   In 2015 I found an NGLA "internet book" in development with some interesting things in it and it was later taken down or restricted.   Could this be same? 
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MCirba

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2017, 12:48:54 PM »
John,


Touching on Steve's point, is the book generally available for purchase?  Thanks for any additional info.
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John Sabino

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2017, 03:59:58 PM »
Mike - Yes, I think so which is why I put it in quotes, Chris clearly seems to be saying that the clubhouse was intended to be place there. In fact, let me go back and reread the section, I think he was saying the intent might have been that the Old Shinnecock Inn was to be converted into the clubhouse. I know the book made the point several times that Macdonald loved the clubhouses at St. Andrews, Hoylake and Royal St. George's and wanted the National's to have the same feel as they do. Will look at it again tonight and will clarify.


My understanding is that the book is limited to members only and will not be sold even in the pro shop (similar to what San Francisco Golf Club is doing).


John
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MCirba

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 04:34:16 PM »
Thanks, John.   I greatly appreciate any info you can provide.
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John Sabino

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2017, 06:42:53 PM »
Steve - It probably was the same one you saw online. This is a substantial effort at 394 pages.


Mike - The clubhouse story: In April 1908 a fire destroyed the Shinnecock Hills Inn, which was serving as the club's temporary clubhouse. The club contracted with Jarvis Hunt (a National member who had built the clubhouse at the Chicago Golf Club) to design their new clubhouse in February 1911. It was built quickly and opened in September of the same year. The building was slightly different than the one there today and did not include the dining room or current library.


Regarding access, there was (is) another entrance to the club called the Vanderbilt Gate which is accessed off of White's Lane. Apparently this took you near the superintendent's house, so I'm gathering it cut across the course and brought members through by where Sebonack is today, behind the pro shop and over to the clubhouse?


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Sven Nilsen

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2017, 07:39:39 PM »
John:


There's been quite a bit of discussion on some of the points touched on in this thread, including the thread found here:


http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,60926.0.html


If you care to read through it to the end, you'll find a highly energetic conversation regarding the intended location of the clubhouse.


Sven
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Ira Fishman

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2017, 08:37:13 PM »
I am quite certain that I will neither ever play NGLA nor step foot in the Clubhouse, but I did just peruse the 56 page thread from a couple of years ago that Sven just posted. Has any other non-golf course design issue ever generated such passion here? Yes, I get that the location of the Clubhouse affects the routing. However, from all that I have read, NGLA would be iconic regardless. What am I missing about the importance of the debate over Clubhouse siting? I can see debating whether the whole concept of Template Holes is good or not (I vote for good based on the two courses I have played--Yale and Old White), but location of the Clubhouse? I must be missing something.

John Sabino

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2017, 09:40:07 PM »
Sven - you should have been a diplomat, "energetic" to say the least. Thanks for sharing. No need to rehash the subject for sure. I'm on the same page as Ira, it would seems the course stands on its own merit and the clubhouse is a tangential issue. John
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Ira Fishman

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2017, 09:48:14 PM »
John, thank you for your diplomatic response. Now having avoided the Clubhouse debate, you may have some light to shine on Ralph Barton.

Sven Nilsen

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2017, 10:16:52 PM »
Ira:


There's a good bit of info on Barton that can be found if you plug his name into the search function, including this thread:


http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,58054.msg1387352.html#msg1387352


Sven
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Ira Fishman

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2017, 08:15:41 AM »
Sven, thank you twice.  Once for the good reminder to Search before Typing.  And, second, for the information about Barton which is great further evidence of the interesting people drawn to golf architecture and how we intersect with architects' lives many years after their passing.

MCirba

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Re: The Original Evangelist of Golf
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2017, 08:41:45 AM »
John/Ira/Sven,

I had to chuckle at Sven's term "energetic", as well, and we certainly got caught up in it.   From my standpoint, I simply  object to speculation and conjecture being presented as fact to create revisionist history, as has been attempted here on GCA much too often, IMHO.   

That said, in looking back on that thread I wonder why it went 56 pages when it seems to me that the Page One responses of Greg Smith, Rich Goodale, and Jim Nugent are self-evidently correct, but some folks do love to argue.

Back to the NGLA book John cited; I do think it is interesting that the authors made reference to CBM loving the clubhouse feel at St. Andrews, Hoylake, and Royal St. George's as each of those courses start inland, go out to the water, and come back.   CBM himself uses the word "intended" in "Scotland's Gift" to describe where his intended first hole had to become his 10th and his 18th hole was intended to be the 9th, so I'm not sure why the need for argument in the first place. 

From a GCA standpoint related to routing, I think if one can derive any conclusion it's perhaps that CBM didn't feel the need for some spectacular finish, or buildup, or crescendo in his routing as is so often attempted today.   He just placed the best holes where they fell on the property and much like courses in Scotland like TOC and North Berwick and many others when people primarily played match-play, there was no real need to save the best for last.

**EDIT** Sven, on a related side note have you ever found anything more definitive regarding the date of that model you presented on the thread?   In looking at it again, it seems the bunkering schemes are quite advanced for what has been described as the methodical bunkering evolution of the course which makes me wonder the time period.   Thanks.
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