[Brad Tufts]

I agree that 18 short risk/reward short 4s would be monotonous.


So may of the great fours can easily be played with a 5i and a wedge.  For me the truly tempting ones are 260-290, and the tees I usually play due to low handicap means that most short par fours are at 300-330.


The Mass. Golf Association started conjuring a few short 4s during the match play portion each year in the Mass. Amateur.  Last time I came up against one, it was 295 with perhaps a 285 carry to the green.  This was out of my range, and even though I was losing at the time, I still hit 5i off the tee.

[Mark Pearce]

In addition, if you cut back on some of there yardages and played most of them as par-3's you'd also have a bunch of really fine holes.

Is that true, though?  Taking the example of the 9th at Glasgow Gailes, I think played as a par 3 at anything more than 130 yards would be almost unfairly difficult.  I missed the green with a 40 yard chip and run on Friday that I thought I had judged perfectly.  Trying to hit it with anything more than a wedge would be toughfor most, I suspect and the penalty for missing is a very difficult chip.  I think that is probably true of most of these holes which, if played as par 3s would almost all have to be short par 3s.

[Thomas Dai]

Brad,


I understand where you're coming from. To take matters a bit further however, I'd be inclinded to view this as an opportunity to play with a restricted distance ball. I do this sometimes.......less walking, less time expended and usually with the ulimate same number of shots played and clubs used as if playing longer holes with a current premium ball.


Mark,


Shortish par-3's was what I had in mind...a certain politician might say they "miss typed".......although what is 'short' these days could easily be a point of debate point given modern grooves and spinny balls etc. Cracking looking hole the one you mention, irrespective of length - https://www.gaileslinks.co.uk/hole-by-hole-guide.html


Atb

[Jason Way]

I'd second votes for Kingsley #13, Boston GC #5, and some of the others mentioned.


I'll also throw in:


#3 at Shoreacres (the 2nd hole there might be my all-time favorite par-4 of any length)
#10 at WeKoPa Saguaro
#11 at Olympia Fields South
#14 at Colorado GC
#3 at Camargo
#13 at Sand Hollow
#5 at Old Sandwich (bending the rules a bit on this one, but it is a really cool hole)
#17 at Essex County Club

[Mark Chaplin]

1 Royal Melbourne composite

8 Sand Hills after I knocked it to 18"

9 Rye

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