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BCowan

Armchair (AAC) 2015/2016 IV (9 Holes)
« on: December 15, 2015, 03:34:18 PM »
We have a Site provided by Adrian Stiff.  Please PM me and I'll be happy to email you the photo so you can print the photo out and or enlarge it for better viewing of the contour lines.  Lets shoot for a par 33.  The wind is out of the SW.  Submissions are due on Jan 15th. 


« Last Edit: January 23, 2016, 10:57:06 AM by Ben Cowan (Michigan) »

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM »
In light of getting tired of twitter like back and forth threads.  Does any Archies want to supply a topo and aerial and have us Amateurs get to work?  Maybe we could learn more about the craft we love by doing?  Give us by Jan 1st or 15th and have X amount of Archies grade us...  I figure a 9 hole routing would be baby steps.  Thoughts?
I have a fairly difficult 9 hole topo it is on about 33 acres. Quite hard to get a great solution, impossible to get a par 36 (or I think it is).
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Ben Hollerbach

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 08:22:46 PM »
Considering I've been seeming sketching nothing but 9 holers recently, a 9 hole AAC sound fantastic. Even if it doesn't happen I'd still love to see this 33 acre topo.

BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 08:26:44 PM »
Ben and Adrian,

Let's do this!  I reached out to a couple archies to judge.  A par 36 on 33 acres seems near impossible.  Maybe par 30-33 would be better?

Kalen Braley

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2015, 01:20:33 PM »
Ben and Adrian,

Let's do this!  I reached out to a couple archies to judge.  A par 36 on 33 acres seems near impossible.  Maybe par 30-33 would be better?

Or you could do what a local course here in Utah did.  They have a 9 holer that's a par 36 on the card, with a total yardage of ~3200.

But when you play the course, all the yardages are woefully off.  For example, it lists a 495 yard par 5, but only plays about 410.  Another hole is listed at 320 yards, but is only 250 tops!!

When you can't make it, just fake it!!  ;D

Will Lozier

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2015, 07:57:30 PM »
Ben and Adrian,

Let's do this!  I reached out to a couple archies to judge.  A par 36 on 33 acres seems near impossible.  Maybe par 30-33 would be better?


Par 33 on 33 acres would be more appropriate don't you think Ben? ;)

Matthew Rose

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2015, 10:55:43 PM »
I've been jonesing for another AAC ever since I so miserably failed at the last one.
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BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 01:06:29 PM »
Matthew, Ben, and others, I've uploaded Adrian's site with topo lines.  I can email you it so you can adjust the size.  Does this work for everyone interested? 

Kalen Braley

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2015, 01:10:00 PM »
Matthew, Ben, and others, I've uploaded Adrian's site with topo lines.  I can email you it so you can adjust the size.  Does this work for everyone interested?

I'd be interested in taking a crack at it. I think the 332 idea sounds good

Mike Viscusi

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2015, 01:20:27 PM »
Matthew, Ben, and others, I've uploaded Adrian's site with topo lines.  I can email you it so you can adjust the size.  Does this work for everyone interested?


I would be interested as well, Ben. Thanks.

Drew Groeger

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2015, 01:39:22 PM »
I am interested in taking a crack at this as well. Do you have an image of just the topo lines by chance?

Andrew Bernstein

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2015, 02:38:43 PM »
I am also interested. I will consider myself an amateur amongst amateurs.

BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2015, 03:27:37 PM »
Guys,

   I messaged you all that posted.  Anyone else interested PM me and I'll email you the photo so you can blow up the image and or print it out on larger paper.  You will be able to see the contour lines better. 


Daryn_Soldan

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2015, 04:28:53 PM »
Ben & Adrian,


Thanks for getting this off the ground and volunteering a unique site. A little research shows some great views! Shall we post a few of those for context?



- Daryn

BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2015, 04:46:21 PM »
Daryn,

    Feel free to share your findings with us.


Kalen Braley

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2015, 04:47:07 PM »
Ben & Adrian,


Thanks for getting this off the ground and volunteering a unique site. A little research shows some great views! Shall we post a few of those for context?



- Daryn

Yes that would be good.

P.S. Is the current routing Adrian's current solution?  The red numbers on the map I'm assuming are the elevations in Meters?  Given the topo lines are offset on .5 M?

Thanks,

BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2015, 04:50:36 PM »
Kalen,

   You are correct on all accounts. 

Kalen Braley

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2015, 05:05:47 PM »
Two more questions...

 The starter shack and parking lot are "set"?

The shrubs and trees must stay?

BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2015, 05:07:43 PM »
Kalen,

   I leave Adrian to make that executive decision.  I'm just the doorman. 

Kalen Braley

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2015, 05:08:32 PM »
Kalen,

   I leave Adrian to make that executive decision.  I'm just the doorman.

Good deal.  The starting point isn't an issue, but the shrubbery could potentially be one...

Daryn_Soldan

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2015, 05:15:05 PM »
Some site context:


1. West end of the property viewed from Nore Road.



2. Same position as picture 1 but looking northeast into the middle of the property



3. View from Nore Road looking northwest from the eastern part of the property (first green of existing routing in the foreground)



4. The Windmill Inn - the land for golf is beyond the inn from this viewpoint.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 05:28:05 PM by Daryn_Soldan »

Mark Kiely

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2015, 05:17:58 PM »
I'm likely in over my head here, so please forgive my ignorance, but are we to ignore the routing on the emailed image and come up with an alternate routing? Is that what we're doing?
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BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2015, 05:21:43 PM »
Mark,

  Yes, ignore the routing. 

Dan Delaney 🐮

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Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2015, 05:28:14 PM »



Can we cross the road?  ;D ;D ;D

BCowan

Re: How does a 9 hole Armchair routing contest sound
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2015, 05:40:42 PM »
Dan,

    Ha, I don't think so. 

Kalen,

   I dislike brush/trees so I'll be whacking them fine or no fine. 

Daryn,

  thanks for the photos
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 05:44:27 PM by Ben Cowan (Michigan) »

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