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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2015, 11:04:06 AM »
I have played that hole at Wolf Run. It's the best hole on the course.

Phil McDade

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2015, 11:11:13 AM »
Rich:


Please jog my memory -- I once saw that in a photo thread, and remember thinking......that's not a good hole.

Thanks John.....

Jason Thurman

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2015, 11:19:57 AM »
The one that sticks out to me is the 1st at The Judge on the RTJ Trail. Nothing terribly offensive - a tee shot off a cliff to a 50 yard-wide fairway below with water right and garbage left. The tourist probably takes the risk of hitting driver just for the joy of watching his shot hang in the air for a while, but anyone with a brain will lay back to the wide part of the fairway and leave a wedge or 9 iron approach. It looks pretty narrow up near the green and there's a pointless bunker, but nothing awful.


I would hate the hole because I live close enough to the South that I've heard about 30 people tell me it's the best opening hole in the world. Standing on that tee, I know I would be haunted by the face of every booger-eater who's ever told me it's a "must play" and "amazing!" I would par the hole with a routine two-putt out of spite and throw up in my mouth every time I see a photo of it for the rest of my life, which would inevitably happen once a week. No thanks.
"There will always be haters. That’s just the way it is. Hating dudes marry hating women and have hating ass kids." - Evan Turner

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Peter Pallotta

Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2015, 12:23:24 PM »
Ha ha - that's the spirit, Jason. Don't just tell us what the worst modern hole is, tell us why you think that.  That you'd make a routine two putt par just out of spite and then forever-more be sick to your stomach is as clear a rationale as I've ever read...
Peter

Bill_McBride

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2015, 12:30:38 PM »
Ha ha - that's the spirit, Jason. Don't just tell us what the worst modern hole is, tell us why you think that.  That you'd make a routine two putt par just out of spite and then forever-more be sick to your stomach is as clear a rationale as I've ever read...
Peter


Jason, I played that hole once and never again.  The wooden spiral cart path from the 18th green up to the clubhouse by that first tee was equally dispiriting.   As a matter of fact I really disliked that Prattville course with its abundance of pulpit greens and blind shots to elevated greens.  There are several other courses on the RTJ Trail that I like better.  Prattville is almost a parody of the RTJ Rulewich style. 

Joe Sponcia

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2015, 01:37:58 PM »
As I understand it...most of the trail was built by a non-Trent Jonesian.  I remember asking why courses that were supposed to be built for retirees and golf trips (with hopefully repeat play) were built to be so hard for the 10+ and above?  The loose quote was, 'because people leave talking about how hard it was and will want to come back'. 


Me:  "...the fairways are like bowling alleys with mostly too high rough, and multi-sectioned greens.  I'm a 2 and I wouldn't play a single one again outside of maybe the Senator".


Sorry to thread jack John, I think it was dying anyway, but I liked the subject a lot!



Joe


"If the hole is well designed, a fairway can't be too wide".

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Ed Brzezowski

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2015, 01:44:06 PM »
Who is the girl teeing off, someone needs to measure those shorts.
We have a pool and a pond, the pond would be good for you.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2015, 01:45:13 PM »
As I understand it...most of the trail was built by a non-Trent Jonesian.  I remember asking why courses that were supposed to be built for retirees and golf trips (with hopefully repeat play) were built to be so hard for the 10+ and above?  The loose quote was, 'because people leave talking about how hard it was and will want to come back'. 


Me:  "...the fairways are like bowling alleys with mostly too high rough, and multi-sectioned greens.  I'm a 2 and I wouldn't play a single one again outside of maybe the Senator".


Sorry to thread jack John, I think it was dying anyway, but I liked the subject a lot!


Joe, Robert Trent Jones associate Roger Rulewich designed most if not all the courses on the Trail.


Have you played the two Grand National courses at Auburn?   Very good.  I also like the Dothan course and most the holes at Greenville.  Can't stand Prattville and Mobile, haven't played the others. 

Bill_McBride

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2015, 01:45:44 PM »
Who is the girl teeing off, someone needs to measure those shorts.


I volunteer.  Somebody has to.

Ed Brzezowski

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2015, 02:12:22 PM »
Nice of you to take one for the team.
We have a pool and a pond, the pond would be good for you.

Rich Goodale

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2015, 03:33:44 PM »
Just about every one of the 3-6 holes I walked on the Castle Course ~a few years ago.  Can't even remember which holes they were or how many I saw but I took a long hot shower when I got home and still felt a bit dirty for a long time afterwards....
Life is good.

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Bruce Katona

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2015, 01:17:29 PM »
I assume (assume = ass out of you and me) the John has never had the pleasure of playing the preverbial annual winner of this award - all 18 holes of The Country Club of The Poconos at Big Ridge. 
 
A site visit of how and what not to do should be a graduation requirement for all GCA/GC Superintendent/Landscape Architecture students within a 200 mile radius.

Anton

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Re: Worst modern hole you have ever seen but not played.
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2015, 09:19:01 AM »
While I did play the 'softened' version of the infamous Stone Harbor 7th, the original is still the worst hole I have ever seen yet not played.  I wish I had played the original just for comic relief.  ;D
“I've spent most of my life golfing - the rest I've just wasted”

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