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Bryan Izatt

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Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« on: November 10, 2015, 02:57:47 AM »
........  or in other words, deep bunkers where there is no easy out in any direction.  I liked the picture and the scale provided by the (not vertically challenged) golfer.  Iirc a nice up and down was made.  I would guess that bunkers of this sort would have drainage problems in most locations, but apparently not here at Woodhall Spa.




Peter Pallotta

Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2015, 06:37:54 AM »
I'm jealous, Bryan, but happy for you nonetheless!
 
And you have provided a perfect description and phrase for what I think golf courses need, i.e. 55 yard-wide fairways but with gorse and/or pitiless pits of perdition on both sides.
 
Peter

Michael Graham

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2015, 07:01:11 AM »
Bryan,

If Lou Duran was playing as well at Woodhall Spa as he was at Sherwood Forest and Notts I'm not at all surprised he got up and down. Aside from the bunkering what were your thoughts on the course?

Lynn_Shackelford

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2015, 08:57:32 AM »
Looking forward to Bryan's response.


For me a pretty piece of land, but too flat to be considered a course "you could play everyday."  Some good par 3's and short par 4's on the back 9, but the long holes are just long and flat.  Not much interest on the greens.  Did I say everything was too flat?  I suppose from the picture you could say the bunkers are far from flat, so it has that.
It must be kept in mind that the elusive charm of the game suffers as soon as any successful method of standardization is allowed to creep in.  A golf course should never pretend to be, nor is intended to be, an infallible tribunal.
               Tom Simpson

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2015, 10:24:42 AM »
When I played WS a few years ago I didn't notice the flat terrain as I made my way around avoiding the cavernous bunkers. It was only upon reflection did I recognize the flattish topography. 
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

"Deep within your soul-space is a magnificent cathedral where you are sweet beyond telling." Rumi

Bryan Izatt

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2015, 01:41:21 PM »
Michael,


We arrived at the course with some trepidation since we were told beforehand that the greens had been punched and we had received conflicting views and advice from the BUDA brethren about whether it was even worth going there.  Turned out the greens were fine and the punching was almost unnoticeable.  As for the conflicting GCA views, I'm not quite sure what to make of them.


In retrospect it was a strong course that was a challenge and certainly has excellent bunkering.  I remember thinking part way through that I couldn't remember the opening stretch of holes or how I played them.  Looking back now, I can remember most of the holes, but I think memorability is probably not one of the course's strong points.  Perhaps, that's because of Lynn's observation of flatness and the relatively tame greens.  I suspect that multiple plays would make it more memorable and I suspect it would continue to be a continuing challenge to play.


Certainly some esteemed reviewers such as Doak think very highly of it.  I'd like to know what specifically they like about it.  For me, it didn't turn my crank enough that I'd like to rush back to play it again.   But then I have more of a weakness for quirky links courses.  WS is more of a championship parkland test, and a pretty good one at that.


The village of Woodhall Spa was pretty neat too for after the round smoothies and pastries. 

Jon Cavalier

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2015, 05:37:59 PM »
When I read the title of this thread, the Travis Bunker on 18 at Garden City sprung immediately to mind:


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Kalen Braley

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2015, 05:50:29 PM »
18 at Chambers Bay.
 
Did anyone get into it during an actual round?
 

David_Tepper

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2015, 05:56:12 PM »
Kalen B. -

Tiger topped a 3-wood into that bunker during the US Open!

DT

Kalen Braley

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Re: Pitiless Pits of Perdition
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2015, 12:28:47 PM »
Kalen B. -

Tiger topped a 3-wood into that bunker during the US Open!

DT

How did I miss that one.... I guess Tiger really has fallen that far that it didn't even make it on the highlight show...

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