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Thomas Dai

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Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« on: September 14, 2015, 11:13:52 AM »
    1-18 GB&I bunkerless par-3’s with no more than 1 hole taken from any individual course.


1st at Huntercombe
2nd at Berkhamsted*
3rd at Montrose
4th at County Sligo
5th at Ballyliffin Old
6th at Royal Portrush (Dunluce)
7th at Narin & Portnoo
8th at Channel Course, Burnham
9th at Kington
10th at Painswick
11th at Royal Ashdown Forest (Old)*
12th at Tenby
13th at St David’s City
14th at Burnham & Berrow (Championship)
15th at Cruden Bay
16th at Minchinhampton Old
17th at Enniscrone
18th at Church Stretton

There are many fine/great/famous bunkerless holes, such as Calamity Corner at Royal Portrush, the 4th at RCP/Deal, 3rd at Royal St Georges etc, that I have not included due to the 1 hole per course self imposed rule and to balance out with other hole numbers from other courses.


To fit in 18 correctly numbered proved to be quite a time consuming exercise and in the end I had to resort to cherrypick a couple of par-3’s (*) on courses I haven’t yet played.


Thoughts and other nominations welcome.


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Ed Tilley

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 11:48:06 AM »
Tralee 13th definitely should be in

Windermere 8th


- although you could also make a case for 2


10


Or 14


Also Castlegregory 2nd


Or 5th



Ed Tilley

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 11:57:15 AM »
16 at Perranporth is an absolute must.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 11:58:52 AM »
    1-18 GB&I bunkerless par-3’s with no more than 1 hole taken from any individual course.


1st at Huntercombe


2nd at Berkhamsted*



3rd at Montrose



4th at County Sligo



5th at Ballyliffin Old
to be posted later

6th at Royal Portrush (Dunluce)
to be posted later

7th at Narin & Portnoo



8th at Channel Course, Burnham
to be posted later

9th at Kington



10th at Painswick



11th at Royal Ashdown Forest (Old)*





12th at Tenby





13th at St David’s City



14th at Burnham & Berrow (Championship)



15th at Cruden Bay
Not many photos available


16th at Minchinhampton Old





17th at Enniscrone





18th at Church Stretton


atb


Thomas Dai

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 01:08:45 PM »
Nice choices Ed. I've not been to Tralee or Castlegregory (yet) and must admit to forgetting Windermere, which I've played. I did consider the 16th at P'porth but it just didn't fit in when I had to fit in holes 1 to 18 by number. Damn fine hole though even more so when combined with the 4th and 6th there. Walk off with 6 stableford points or 3 nett pars on the card for playing the 3 par-3's at P'porth and you'll done pretty well.
Atb

Frank Pont

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 01:18:26 PM »
Cool, we need to build more of those on modern courses.....

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 01:40:20 PM »
Am building one at the moment just done the road from Huntercombe. 15th at Greys Green. It's about 240 yards though. Others I have done are;
Stranahan, which is a quirky/GCA inspired affair has 4; 1st, 6th, 8th, 18th.
Erlestoke; 2nd
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 04:33:16 PM »
I'd nominate the 7th on the Carne Kilmore course..... But then I would, wouldn't I.

Great list DT...

Thomas Dai

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 05:02:54 PM »
I'd nominate the 7th on the Carne Kilmore course..... But then I would, wouldn't I.
Great list DT...


:)


I did consider the Kilmore 7th, which incidentally I am very much hoping to play next Sept, as the 16th on my listing when taken in combination with the front-9 of The original 18, if you get my drift.


I also thought about the 2nd hole on the Kilmore but reckoned the sand blow-outs, especially the one on the right, side could be deemed a bunkers.


Another Irish hole I considered was the par-3 7th-16th on the Scumore 9-hole course at Enniscrone, which is bunkerless, and was part of the main 18-hole course until Donald Steele revised it when the hole became part of the Scurmore-9. When I was at Enniscrone a few locals I spoke with suggested to me that the 7th-16th hole on the Scurmore is probably the best hole of the entire 27 holes available to play there. More food for thought for next Sept.


I also thought of including the 3rd hole on Steele's revised Enniscrone course, another bunkerless par-3.


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John Mayhugh

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2015, 08:25:51 PM »
5th at Ballyliffin Old

Have you seen the 5th at Royal Worlington & Newmarket?

Thanks for the thread. Less can certainly be more. 

Thomas Dai

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2015, 12:24:03 PM »
5th at Ballyliffin Old
Have you seen the 5th at Royal Worlington & Newmarket?
Thanks for the thread. Less can certainly be more.

I've not been to RW&N John, but I'd certainly like too. The hole you mention looks to be an absolute cracker. For sure less can be more.


The 17th at Saint-Germain per your recent thread looks a right cracker too. Is it bunkerless (in one of your photos
there seems to be a sandy patch back right of the green)?
Atb
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2015, 03:41:50 PM »
I am going to throw one in that very few will know and that is the 9th a Dewsbury District GC. Short at about 130 yards. OOB tight to the left side. Played slightly uphill to a smallish green with lots of movement. Missing the green usually leaves you with a very tricky up and down. This is an unusual hole which is great fun.

Jon

jeffwarne

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2015, 04:17:52 PM »
Third hole buncrana GC
240-over first green, to a bowl surrounded by playable rough-only left portion available for runup or runup fade
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2015, 03:57:35 AM »
Jon, the Dewsbury hole looks fun/tricky. I see from the clubs website that the original course was an Old Tom Morris design. Would this be one of his holes or one from later on?


Jeff, when you posted about NWGC on your Donegal tour thread I looked up Ally's course phototour from a few years ago so I get an inkling of what you mean about this hole.


Just shows how many quality bunkerless par-3's there are around, and I guess we've just touched the surface with the holes selected and mentioned so far.


Atb





Neil White

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2015, 04:47:38 AM »
Cleeve Cloud - 6th



Jon Wiggett

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2015, 02:38:49 PM »
Jon, the Dewsbury hole looks fun/tricky. I see from the clubs website that the original course was an Old Tom Morris design. Would this be one of his holes or one from later on?

Thomas,

the ninth is a really fun hole to play and I spent many hours chipping and putting on and around it as a junior. I know it is one the original holes from the first 18 hole routing but am not sure if this was the one designed by OTM. Originally Dewsbury was a 9 hole layout with a clubhouse to the left side of the current 4th just behind the maintenance building. You can still see the remains of the old clubhouse in the woods.

Jon

John Mayhugh

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2015, 12:21:04 PM »
The 17th at Saint-Germain per your recent thread looks a right cracker too. Is it bunkerless (in one of your photos
there seems to be a sandy patch back right of the green)?

I think there were two bunkers on the right.  Maybe this was originally intended as a single bunker, as I think Colt favored odd numbers.

James Boon

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2015, 05:59:22 AM »
A few others to consider:


6th Painswick
13th The Island
17th Southerness


I can think off a few more, but perhaps nothing special architecturally.


I was surprised how many I thought of only to realise they actually had one or two bunkers. Does this make them unmemorable holes or bunkers that are redundant or could be removed?
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2015, 11:48:44 AM »
So many classy bunkerless par-3's. Are bunkers overused on par-3's (indeed generally overused)?
Atb

Jon Wiggett

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2015, 12:19:59 PM »
Thomas,

I have often had the same thought. I always think that if a slope, hollow or mound would have a similar effect on the strategy of a hole then a bunker is not needed. I think around the green bunkers are heavy over used. They are much more effective as a fairway hazard IMO.

Jon

David_Tepper

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Re: Bunkerless GB&I par-3 holes (1-18)
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2015, 05:23:12 PM »
Never mind!

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