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Marty Bonnar

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Kwirky Killin
« on: September 08, 2015, 05:13:08 PM »
Just returned from spending a lovely weekend in our glorious Scottish highlands, a-fishin' and a-golfin', and it was far from:



Actually not that far from the splendidly named village of Dull, with the ingeniously-twinned town of Boring!

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The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2015, 05:14:02 PM »
So further along the road past lovely Loch Tay, we arrive at:



Hurrah! They sell Belhaven Best, so that's a great start...
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2015, 05:43:14 PM »
This 9-holer winds its merry way around and over some fairly dramatic post-glacial features and uses them well. It also tries to add some variety with a number of double Tees for many of the holes, some of which change the play most considerably! I'll post the two tee shot views together where they exist for comparison.
Holes #1 and 10:
Hole 1 view:

Hole 10 view:

So, two quite different challenges from two tees that are probably only thirty yards apart. Both options involve the decision to try to carry the small ditch or lay up. There a lovely split level area beyond which again adds nice variety to the approach.
Carrying the corner of the river is also a bit of an added knee-trembler...
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2015, 05:48:03 PM »
And here is that split level area:


Semi blind approach from the easier left hand side, better view from the harder to reach right.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2015, 05:51:46 PM »
Green #1 and 10:


So, the greens might be a tad simple, but I guess this place is being run on a minimalistic shoestring...
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2015, 05:56:03 PM »
Tee for holes #2 and 11:


Fairly ho-hum short hole which, along with the next hole, just fills in the bottom lowest corner of the site before getting back to some interest.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2015, 05:58:55 PM »
Tee for holes #3 and 12. La Nancy ready to Rip one!

Another fairly dull hole, but look at that view!


Yes, the girls took a cart. I know...
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2015, 06:08:23 PM »
Hole #4/13:
Back to some fun! This is a proper rollercoaster of hilarity. Double blind, over the first hump to the cleavage of tranquility, then over the second to a nice sloping green.



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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2015, 06:16:42 PM »
Holes #5 and 14. Here's another where the two Tees make for two very different golfing experiences.
Hole 5 tee:

Hole 14 tee:

Our more observant members will have noted these Tees are approximately 90 degrees apart. The effect of the wall is quite different in each case, isn't it!


Very simple two-tiered green with a very tricky pin position... Yes, the pin is square in the hole.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2015, 06:37:13 PM »
Hole #6/15. Straightaway downhill to the wildest/best greensite on the course. Another look at that stunning view:


Approach to benched/bunkered green with wild wall of death on the left:

Wall of death left, DA right. Great fun!
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2015, 06:44:44 PM »
Martin:


That's the course I stopped into when stranded by a road accident in central Scotland, just before wrapping up Volume 1 of The Confidential Guide.  A cool little place.  I missed the alternate tee for #14 !!
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2015, 06:46:45 PM »
Hole #7/16.
Two tees again, divided by about ten yards horizontally and vertically!
Tee 7:

Tee 16:


Just awesome how such small differences in elevation can have such a dramatic effect on the playing characteristics and even just the very 'feel' of a golf hole.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2015, 06:47:45 PM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on September 08, 2015, 06:44:44 PM
Martin:


That's the course I stopped into when stranded by a road accident in central Scotland, just before wrapping up Volume 1 of The Confidential Guide.  A cool little place.  I missed the alternate tee for #14 !!

It was a bit of a mystery tour at some points! Took me a bit to find the tenth tee!
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2015, 06:59:15 PM »
Holes 8/17. Whoops, looks like I forgot the photo on 17. The tee is down there on the left. This tee is across a bridge and up a steep set of steps to a very lofty viewpoint. It actually feels like you've left the golf course! I believe the club has a bit more land, which I guess might be on the right here, to possibly add 9 holes.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2015, 07:09:28 PM »
And finally 9/18. A lovely, tumbling, downhill black run to the clubhouse and a much needed cold libation.
Tee shot through a delightful saddle:


To the LZ around here:

And just be thankful, the routing wasn't uphill to finish...


So that's Killin. About as far from the sea as it's possible to get in Scotland, but great fun holiday golf for the enquiring, adventurous golfer.

Cheers,
F.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2015, 03:52:40 AM »
Well posted Martin. Looks to be a bunch of fun although I see a few newish staked trees, which is slightly ominous. Variety in golf is nice to see (and experience) so thanks for sharing this with us.
Atb
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Niall C

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2015, 08:50:38 AM »
Martin


Many thanks for that. Looks like a lovely lay of the land type course.


Niall
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Paul Gray

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2015, 10:03:46 AM »
A cracking tour Martin. Hope you don't mind me butting in by posting the scorecard on your thread. Thought people might like to see it.
 
Wonderful that we live on a little island where you can just happen upon such little gems. And to me, never mind the second tier £60 green fee which often gets described as such, this is the real definition of little gem. Just shy of 5,000 yards of fun. One day, when the numbers come in, I'm going to built me one of these, if build is really the right word.
 
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Steve Wilson

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2015, 10:53:50 AM »

There was a thread that called attention to this course a year or two ago, and that's why I knew to be on the lookout for it.

Unfortunately on the two occasions I have been by there it was cracking the rain down.  I don't mind a little rain, particularly when I'm close to the barn, but on these occasions I had miles to go and didn't fancy sitting in wet clothes in a wet car seat for three more hours.  Maybe next year. 
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2015, 12:24:55 PM »
Quote from: Martin Bonnar on September 08, 2015, 06:08:23 PM
Hole #4/13:
Back to some fun! This is a proper rollercoaster of hilarity. Double blind, over the first hump to the cleavage of tranquility, then over the second to a nice sloping green][/URL]

"The cleavage of tranquillity..." gotta play there.

Many thanks Martin.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2015, 01:47:37 PM »
Nice comments, Gents. It was a most pleasurable experience, indeed. The bar did a damn good John Panton too. There was even an old b&w photo of the grand old chap playing an exhibition match in the 60s.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2015, 03:00:36 PM »

Interesting card.  That's close to the dimensions of the mystical Painswick, which is par 67 at about the same distance.   The guest fee, if it is £60, seems a bit of a stretch. 

Quote from: Paul Gray on September 09, 2015, 10:03:46 AM
A cracking tour Martin. Hope you don't mind me butting in by posting the scorecard on your thread. Thought people might like to see it.
 
Wonderful that we live on a little island where you can just happen upon such little gems. And to me, never mind the second tier £60 green fee which often gets described as such, this is the real definition of little gem. Just shy of 5,000 yards of fun. One day, when the numbers come in, I'm going to built me one of these, if build is really the right word.
 

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David_Tepper

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2015, 03:08:36 PM »
Bill M. -

The club's website shows the weekday visitor 18-hole green fee at 22 pounds and the weekend fee at 25 pounds.

http://www.killingolfclub.co.uk/visitors.php

DT
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2015, 04:08:01 PM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on September 09, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
Bill M. -

The club's website shows the weekday visitor 18-hole green fee at 22 pounds and the weekend fee at 25 pounds.

http://www.killingolfclub.co.uk/visitors.php

DT


That sounds more reasonable.  Maybe Paul's £60 was a day rate that included a bacon roll, lunch between rounds and unlimited Belhaven's Best!   ;D
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Kwirky Killin
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2015, 04:33:25 PM »
Aye Marty, tha was a goot one, 'cleavage o' tranquilitie...'

Interesting the anticipation of weather with one lady dressed for summer, and 'La Nancy' bundled for a brisk fall day.

Why do some of the holes have the same name, and some have different Scots names?

I reckon if these sort of courses are your cup of tea, you will enjoy your trip to Wisconsin.  ;) ;D

Also, we have a course here in my city with two distinctive holes in 9 with double teeing grounds and either huge double greens like St Andrews, or actual dual greens with distinct differing shot requirements and challenges.  Very sporty...
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