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Tim Gavrich

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I was going to put this in Jud T's topic about the effect of equipment on course maintenance, but wondered whether it was a bigger topic...

How much has the runaway expected cost of maintaining golf courses been affected by the desire for a golf course to be "beautiful" rather than interesting?

When I see really old photos of golf courses, I am often struck by their ruggedness. Obviously that has some to do with the quality of the photography back then, but the shaping of the bunkers, the rougher-looking off-fairway areas, etc.

I wonder whether the desire for a golf course to be "beautiful" in the sense that a mansion's elaborate gardens are "beautiful" is a more recent phenomenon. Is it?

In other words, when did elements of the experience of touring a grand country estate's gardens enter the popular notion of a great golf experience?

As golf course builders became able to more easily cut crisp bunker edges and shape stream and pond banks and add vegetation that had no bearing on the playing of a particular hole, did those in charge fail to ask themselves and their members, "Just because we can do this stuff now, does that mean we should do it?"?

Did the early 20th century notion of a wonderful golf experience include encountering things like flowers and purely aesthetic plantings? Or did technological advances like more sophisticated irrigation methods, as they enabled greenskeepers to make the grass greener and more lush, start to give club members and course developers permission to expect a higher and higher standard of "beauty"?

Or was it Augusta and the rise of televised golf in color that gave golfers the impression that a properly enjoyable day on the golf course could (and indeed should, or even must) be something more than the fondly-remembered playing of the course itself?

I see comments about courses online where the thing people seem to love most about a given course was how green and well-manicured it was. Should we encourage these people to put clubs away and visit the Biltmore instead?

When someone describes a golf course to me as "beautiful," rather than, say, "cool" or "fun," I can't help but feel a bit suspicious that it's actually dully designed and must lean on cosmetics to get by. Is that an instinct that the game's originators would have shared?
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Paul Gray

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2015, 10:51:32 AM »
GREAT, BIG topic. And not one I'm able to respond to fully right now whilst working but there's certainly more than one answer, featuring a great many cultural and societal trends more broadly on route, from perceptions of emperial power to the homogenisation of the American Dream.
 
More to follow.
In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Dave McCollum

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 11:21:21 AM »
I usually don’t stick my toe in philosophical waters.  It seems you already answered your own query:  “just because we can…”  From there we can go in many directions--golf as an “aspirational” activity, clubs as symbols of wealth and social class, status, art, beauty, vanity, taste, fashion, comfort, and so on.  The arguments and examples are limitless, as are the exceptions that counter them.  One person’s old junk car buried under years of dust and debris in a dilapidated barn is another person’s restoration dream and perhaps treasure.  How golf courses are maintained and why people gather together to enjoy the game at their course or club is as complicated and diverse as any other human activity.  The value and meaning is mostly in the eyes of beholder and how a person wishes to be perceived by family, friends, peers, strangers, community, culture, etc.

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 12:27:42 PM »
Tim,

Interesting topic, and only a few thoughts, from one who has mostly hung around mid level and public courses.  I will give it some more though tonight.

First, I don't know if it was Tilly or the authors who coined the phrase "The Course Beautiful" but I suspect it was Tillie, so its not as modern a concept as you may think.

In general, the high end clubs can afford it, so why not. 

Also, for those mid and lower level courses, some of it was just the benefit of better machinery, turf, irrigation, etc. Your examples of vertical bunker edges falls into that category - after all of the above came around, it was easier and cheaper to maintain clean edges over rugged ones.

I don't know of too many clubs/courses where sooner or later, it all comes down to money, and I think all those innovations were meant to be labor saving, not increasing. 

And very few can afford extensive annual flowers, or even high maintenance flowering trees.  When I worked at a public course in college, I recall planting flowers, and the super explaining that they could only afford the clubhouse and a double tee area. In both cases, golfers got to view the same flowers twice, so they represented value on a low budget.  And, even in 1973-4, he was one of the few who planted, probably because he originally wanted to grow orchids for a living.  Others avoided them.

I was told early that "A golf course is not an arboretum."  Trees are selected for fast growth (by the unwise) and natural adaptability to the local conditions with minimal maintenance by most.  (Missed the boat on all those Dutch elms, but mistakes happen)

Lastly, as it happens, landscapes tend to look better with age and maturity, unlike structures or humans, as tree grow, turf matures. Maybe they just lucked into it, perhaps with a bit of over planting.....
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Peter Pallotta

Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 02:22:40 PM »
Good thread and posts, addressing the topic from its many possible angles. Here's just a random thought/analogy:


I noticed a few years ago that the only restaurants that are quiet anymore (i.e. the only ones that don't insist on piping in music) are the expensive/high-end ones --especially those catering to an old-money clientele and/or those offering a  classic dining experience. Isn't that strange, i.e. that we'll pay more money not for what the restaurant offers but for what it doesn't, not for the presence of some additional element but for its absence. When the world was a bit quieter, a quiet restaurant didn't seem all the special; in the constant buzz of today, it now seems rarified.


And then when Bandon (sans carts, in the middle of nowhere, a 'golf only' experience with nary a water fountain or a flower bed or a swimming pool to be found) became all the rage, it struck me: of course, the only thing the big city man who has everything doesn't have is quiet, and remoteness, and nature -- and that is precisely what he'll now pay extra for. He has and has had for years all the golfing bells and whistles that money can buy, and so all the bells and whistles don't seem special anymore; instead, it's the relative simplicity and ruggedness of Bandon that now seems rarified -- now seems beautiful.     

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2015, 05:07:50 PM »
Pete,

As an old guy, I notice that the arena managers have changed from oldies but goodies to music generally aimed at the "yutes" of America (film trivia knowledge needed on that one)  Makes sense that old line, upscale restaurants cater to a crowd more likely to afford it.  Of course, Bandon and Sand Hills probably cater to the same crowd.  Getting away from it all is a treasure these days. 

Does Bandon and SH ban cell phones on the golf course, or even get service out there?  It would help, IMHO.

Back on topic, philosophically, I have always thought from the baby boomers on, raised on TV, and blockbuster movies (even moreso for GEN X) in general, I do believe design has become more visual.  Maybe we are catering to that demographic, or maybe because most designers are now in the baby boom generation, visual has become more important.  Or, maybe with the strategies figured out by the last generations pretty well, it was the only way we believed we could expand the craft.

That said, there are beautiful golf courses in every generation, and it was always well appreciated, like the natural beauty, highlighted well by AM and his gorgeous bunkering.  I may be full of myself for thinking we improved anything.....good art is good art in any generation.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Jud_T

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2015, 05:51:38 PM »
I think a lot of it comes down to a sales pitch.  Signiture holes, professionally shot brochures, etc.  So it simply depends on what they are/were selling:


Real Estate
A lifestyle
Exclusiveness
Luxury
Privacy
Beauty
Serenity
Services
Memberships
Houses


The problem is that much of what is valued here is of a more subtle nature that often takes knowledge, experience and a number of plays and isn't easily packaged into a glossy mailer.  i.e.:
Subtletly
Turf
Variety of options
Value
Putting resources into the golf course for players not posers
Ease of walking
Quick play and a course and maintenance practices that lend themselves to this
etc.


From the Pretty, Challenging and Fun silos (Nuzzo), unfortunately it's been primarily pretty and challenging that's an impulse sale in the check-out line of golf course consumption and fun is a more post hock impression that only comes a while after you've plunked your hard-earned cash down...
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Tom_Doak

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2015, 06:55:53 PM »
Tim:


I think that without question, the runaway cost of maintenance is the result of clubs stressing a good-LOOKING playing surface over a good-playing one.  Every time I see guys out there blowing clippings around to keep the cart paths clean, I think about all the money being spent on stuff that has zero to do with playability.  No doubt this came from housing-development courses, but there has been a trickle-down effect throughout the golf industry at large.  The amount of money spent cleaning up waste bunkers so they look perfect, is a waste unto itself.


I'm not sure I see the link between architecture - beauty - maintenance cost, though.  The main ways designers drive up maintenance cost are by building more area to maintain, and building more severe and steep features -- in other words, by making the golf course more playable or more challenging, not more beautiful. 


I guess those shadowy bunkers of yesteryear, if those were supposed to be beautiful, would qualify as they certainly drove up costs.

Paul Gray

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2015, 07:04:02 PM »
To me, this is a given. The question is why......

Golf, once it had spread beyond Scotland, became the pursuit of the aristocracy. The game played which made it's way from the seaside to the heathlands was not intended for the average Joe Jones. In essence, golf was posh, meaning the golf course and the English country garden were never far apart in the psyche of the golfer. Capability Brown may not have been a golf course architect but he left a legacy as to what money combined with landscape looked like, particularly in the eyes of the wannabes.

Transport the game to America and you have a new factor: American Empire. Britain is a small country and, save for some rebellious Scots and Irish, the wildlife didn't need much taming. You can hardly flex your machismo by conquering The Cotswolds. The British then focused their attention on grabbing everyone else's land. Conversely, the growth of the American Empire, painting on extra stars as you went, was always inextricably linked with going west and taming the land. There was more than enough opportunity to demonstrate your power simply by heading west and levelling the land. Little wonder then that green grass, water sources and neat lines were seen as progress.

Skip forward to the 1950's and Americanism had become about far more than simply a dream of owning your own bit of land in the sand. By the 1950's, there was a whole package which included the sanitisation of everything, land included, and commercialism as god. Golf, as ever, had remained aspirational and aspiration and commercialism led to an easy sell to the masses. Of course, with the average Joe taking to golf, the bigwigs had to do something to demonstrate their greater spending power, particularly in a capitalist society where affluence was/is the measure of a man. The Joneses tried to keep up and the rich kept trying to stay ahead. Costs inevitably spiralled as everyone had to demonstrate just how much sugar they could afford.

All that is fine but doesn't explain anything beyond America. The explanation for that though is simple: America, certainly by the 1980's, was not only the dominant global power militarily, it was also the dominant cultural trend setter. Growing up as a kid in the 80's, I can confidently say that America was like a byword for cool or modern or desirable. So globally of course we saw a Trent Jones style boom as articifical courses popped up everywhere. "American style with water coming in to play on no fewer than 154 of the 18 holes" was a typical rallying cry and anyone who argued was apparently out of touch. If you could remove that sand dune, stick a cart path down and put a lake in front of the 18th green, why wouldn't you?

And finally we have the current day situation, played out at my own club at an EGM only a fortnight ago: the members who are close to pushing up the daisies are happy with the links in it's natural form, so are many of the youngest members. The guys who started playing the game in the 80's or 90's are are now the latest generation of newly retired golfers and they have a hard time understanding the notion of less being more, particularly those who grew up with less because of necessity, rather than choice. Remember, many of these guys were baby boomers; Briton's for whom getting out of pre-fabricated council house Britain, buying their own home and tidying the garden was a measure of success. Theirs is a game which ties their own masculine varility with a sense of order and achievement. Try telling them that tidy tarmac paths and 'Augustafication' are all a bit gauche. 
 
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In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Phil Young

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2015, 09:43:14 PM »
Jeff,

The title of the book comes from the October 1920 issue of Golf Illustrated. In the column titled "The Course Beautiful" Tilly began it with these words: "It seems to me that he, who plans any hole for golf, should have two aims: first, to produce something which will provide a true test for the game, and then consider every conceivable way to make it as beautiful as possible."

It is a fascinating article and is the last one re-told in the book "The Course Beautiful."

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2015, 12:20:34 PM »
Phil,

That's what I thought, but didn't want to scour the bookshelves to prove it.

Seems logical enough. A great design should play well and look good.  Also, be relatively easy to maintain.  Not a bad goal, but I understand the concept of "overdoing it" and missing the mark.  And, with more tools, budgets, etc., and a general desire to do something new and different, we (or some of us) probably hit that dubious mark at some high point of the golf course building boom.  But, I don't think it was a bad thing to try or nothing would move forward.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Jud_T

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2015, 12:28:10 PM »
Jeff,

The title of the book comes from the October 1920 issue of Golf Illustrated. In the column titled "The Course Beautiful" Tilly began it with these words: "It seems to me that he, who plans any hole for golf, should have two aims: first, to produce something which will provide a true test for the game, and then consider every conceivable way to make it as beautiful as possible."

It is a fascinating article and is the last one re-told in the book "The Course Beautiful."


I guess the concern is that some folks may have lost sight of the priorities-  notice he said FIRST produce a true test and THEN consider beauty...
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2015, 01:05:07 PM »
Jud,

Well, I don't disagree. Some would say accommodating women and/or a wider variety of golfer, trying to speed up play,  make money, etc., represent at least necessary design differences from the great old courses.  Others would say we actually design too much for the good player and it has it's consequences, as well.  Its a big world out there, not every course was ever a masterpiece, etc. etc. etc.

So, its a matter of some good spirited debate, as always has been.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Peter Pallotta

Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2015, 01:07:18 PM »
Heck of a post there, Paul. Terrific stuff.
Peter

Phil Young

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 02:00:19 PM »
Jud,

I wasn't implying otherwise, just simply answering Jeff's question. The article goes into a number of interesting aspects on how an architect should "beautify" his design. The last paragraph is especially interesting in this regard:

"The saying that 'A thing of beauty is a joy forever' undoubtedly is just as much applicable to the most extravagantly laid out lawn or garden. Members should take great pride and encourage their groundsman in every effort he takes to keep the links in first-class condition. Invariably it is taken as a matter of course that they should be that way but how much more he would appreciate a kindly word or a little note now and then, commenting on his good work."

Paul Gray

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2015, 07:07:27 PM »
Heck of a post there, Paul. Terrific stuff.
Peter


Glad someone appreciated it. Many thanks for the kind words. Yours is a brain which I'm flattered to be able to appeal to.


It's amazing where my head often wanders to when playing a few holes as a lone golfer after work. All it usually takes is a neat edge on a bunker or a bendy fairway line and I'm off on all sorts of tangents!
In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Tim Gavrich

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2015, 09:42:57 PM »
All--

I'm honored to have received so many thoughtful responses to my question. I had heard the phrase "The Course Beautiful" but had failed to note that it comes from Tillinghast and is nearly a century old. I'll be traveling to the UK tomorrow and will have a bunch of downtime to think about these responses and come up with some more substance.
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Paul Gray

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2015, 09:33:20 AM »
An additional question, if I may:
 
When did industrialisation become associated with beautification? I don't mean to suggest that someone decided a course through a major city looked cool, just that, at some point, man decided that if we took many of the everyday features of our everyday urban lives, roads being one such example, and put them on a golf course in the form of a tarmac path, we'd be improving the course?
In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2015, 11:11:57 AM »
My impression is it was the other way around.....they wanted to take the beauty of the golf course to enhance the relative bleakness of urban/suburban areas.  I doubt they considered making the golf course great. They wanted to make it accessible.

Re-reading it, I think you may be talking about only cart paths.  If so, I never forget a quote from a friend of mine who lived in Germany for a while.  "When people say the US has no culture, they are wrong. Ours is a culture of convenience."

In essence, the function of convenience/cart riding trumped aesthetics.  And given our convenience cravings, culture, whatever, it wasn't even a contest.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Paul Gray

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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2015, 12:01:05 PM »
My impression is it was the other way around.....they wanted to take the beauty of the golf course to enhance the relative bleakness of urban/suburban areas.  I doubt they considered making the golf course great. They wanted to make it accessible.

Re-reading it, I think you may be talking about only cart paths.  If so, I never forget a quote from a friend of mine who lived in Germany for a while.  "When people say the US has no culture, they are wrong. Ours is a culture of convenience."

In essence, the function of convenience/cart riding trumped aesthetics.  And given our convenience cravings, culture, whatever, it wasn't even a contest.

I'm not sure that I agree with you Jeff. People seem, certainly here in England, to regard adding unnecessary paths as a status symbol. Certainly during the 90's, those paths were about demonstrating that you, well, you just could.

Only supposedly lesser clubs left things to nature. Top clubs, so the Belfry or Wentworth will testify to, got busy with the tarmac. Sarcasm utterly intentional, btw.
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In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Thomas Dai

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Re: The Destructiveness (?) of Aspirations to "Beauty" in Architecture
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2015, 02:54:22 PM »
An element of Catch-22 here. More winter play at inland courses in the last few decades, and you can perhaps 'blame' better quality waterproof clothing and shoes for this, has meant more scruffy, muddy areas especially around tees, green sides and particularly green to next tee walks, so the cry goes out for more permanent paths. And with seemingly more extensive course work going on over the winter period so the call goes out for more permanent paths for machinery. And then the call for the beautification of paths commences...
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